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Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« on: October 14, 2024, 08:58:37 PM »
I have received several messages claiming that there are militias running around NC confronting and in some cases kicking out FEMA folks. I checked and double checked to see if this was true and every body I checked with said it was BS.

I also heard via the truck radio on a news broadcast that this rumor was going on and it was started by one individual who called an alphabet agency and started the rumor. Local police tracked the rumor back to the one individual and he was arrested.

Since only one individual reported this, how did the media outside the state get ahold of it? Why would the media post something that wasn't true without verifying the story?

Just food for thought.

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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2024, 09:18:42 AM »
One guy started it, a FEMA employee/activist got fearful and spread the rumor that it was widespread across the state.  This is planned to get a rule going through that anytime FEMA is involved the 2A and permissive state laws related to it are suspended and the entire area is a no carry zone.  With further limits as they can get worked through.

Yes, far out there thinking, but entirely possible by Bide and Harris if she gets there.

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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2024, 12:57:15 PM »
Yes, this has disinformation/propaganda for political gain written all over it.  Need an 'emergency' for more dictatorial powers. In the old Iron Curtain days it was called "Psycho-Political Warfare".  Big impact for little risk and investment.

Was it THESE guys?!?!?  They look familiar.



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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2024, 07:13:29 PM »
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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2024, 09:02:40 PM »
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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2024, 12:35:02 PM »
Yes, this has disinformation/propaganda for political gain written all over it.  Need an 'emergency' for more dictatorial powers. In the old Iron Curtain days it was called "Psycho-Political Warfare".  Big impact for little risk and investment.

Was it THESE guys?!?!?  They look familiar.



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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2024, 12:45:33 PM »
Neighbor asked about the "GROUPS OF MILITIA CONFRONTING FEMA" story, as that sanctioned rumor spreads...  Explained the evident arrest of the lone guy who used electronic communication with some sheltered FEMAite      :hiding:    who panicked and spread it as a mass confrontation. 

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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2024, 06:10:47 PM »
Notify the FBI that he has violated Title 18 Section 242 of the US Code. He has violated the 5th amendment. The government can seize personal property for the common good but they must do it through due process and pay fair market value. Hmmm..... No Due process and no payment of fair market value. BAM! One year in a Federal Prison and even a $2,500 fine. That is a criminal offense so he can't use Qualified immunity. Qualified immunity only applies to Civil Offenses.
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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2024, 03:25:03 PM »
Felix, I do not know about the helo's however, he was confiscating water, food, and other items. I forget which exit, I think it was exit 3 or 4 off of I-81 in TN., if you were a private guy pulling a trailer stacked with water, food, clothing etc., when you exited you were directed to a turnaround and then escorted to a county EOC type facility where they took the donations you were bringing down. The reasoning was to centralize the Johnston County relief.

The problem with that was that most of the donations were going to specific churches so they could better disseminate the donations to the local community vs. the community go to the county EOC.

Originally, we (5 trailer loads Thursday 10/10 and another 4 on Saturday 10/12) were supposed to go to Jonesborough, TN. but do to the confiscation issue, we were diverted to Newland, NC. We exited I-81 at exit 2, Bristol TN.

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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2024, 04:09:32 PM »
Because stealing is GOOD & LEGAL, when you are tyrants.



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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2024, 08:22:13 AM »
Just my opinion...

Churches were doing a pretty good job of getting supplies out to the people who needed them. The churches and its members know the community very well and they have a very good network between the churches for sharing information. Add to the above, going to a church down the street is far better than forcing people in need to travel miles to a centralized EOC.

If any readers here have been in NC/TN, and I am sure other southern states, you will find a church location every mile or two on any given road.

One day, I was trying to find a home for excess clothes and I was hitting every church. Nobody wanted them as due to the outpouring of support from surrounding states and communities. What the churches wanted was blankets, sleeping bags, and warm weather coats. It was in the high 20's low 30's at night and we even had 1" of snow early one morning. One of the churches I stopped at the pastor came out and chatted with me. He was studying for his Amateur radio Technicians license and saw my antennas and license plate which apparently screamed ham radio. Here were some of his comments...

> As a community, we do not need clothes anymore we need winter coats, blankets, and sleeping bags. Initially,
   donations of clothes was fine however, some of the clothes sent was ridiculous like, swim wear, fancy ladies
   underware, and used footwear. The clothes came in trash bags which was fine but it was mixed and many bags
   did not say what was in the bags, e.g. children's, men's, women's, etc. clothes.
> Within 12-hours after danger of the storm had passed, every country boy with a ATV was on the road with a
   chainsaw and clearing roads. Once the roads started to be cleared the same country boys worked their way
   on to the mountains and into the hollers looking to see if they could help neighbors. The biggest need at first
   was clean water. Once that was coming and being given out the next biggest need was shelter as many houses
   had been washed away or had collapsed. Many a person was trying to keep dry and warm under a tarp flung
   over a ridge line between two trees.
> Then good folks from surrounding states started to show up with their ATV's, which was a welcome relief to the
    initial good old boys making it happen. Now these men could focus on their own situation.
> He went on to describe that by this time FEMA started to show up and tried to take over from the good old boys
    and volunteers who were doing a great job. Rather than working with the locals FEMA exhibited an air of
    superiority that put all that had been doing a great job for 10-days or so, off. The end result was FEMA was
    ignored and when that happened FEMA's nose got out of joint and purposely took a back seat. Kind-a like, "you
    want to do it your way? Great, we are going to just sit in this parking lot and collect your name and address for
    assistance in the future".
> Last, there was a lot of folks, now without a home, that were staying in these churches. Some have been in the
   churches since the storm had passed but many after a few days in the churches had moved on to family
   and/other digs to alleviate the burden on the churches.

It was such a good chat with the pastor that I am going to reach out to him since I am home to see if I can help him with his Tech license.

Well I am rambling now. Got to get a move on. Sunlight is wasting.

More to come as I debrief myself.  :lmfao:  :thumbsUp:  :cheers:

 
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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2024, 10:52:50 AM »
The comments describing FEMA attitude/actions/reactions remind me of King George, Parliament and His Majesty's loyal subjects who began to feel neglected, used and abused.
When a government is no longer for the people, by the people (or a good King who retains legitimacy through care for his subjects), history is one of repeat "reactivity".   
And the "great job market"?     Employment numbers juiced with government hiring.   Uncle Sam is now the nation's largest employer.   And oh boy howdy, what a great "investment" this has appeared to be for the flood zones...

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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2024, 01:29:33 PM »
JohnnyMac,
Appreciate the detailed update!

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Re: Rumor - Militias Are Kicking FEMA Out Of NC
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2024, 01:56:10 PM »
Because stealing is GOOD & LEGAL, when you are tyrants.



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