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Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« on: January 19, 2018, 08:26:40 AM »
In short, Humpty Dumpty is about to fall from his wall and all of the Kings men will not be able to put him/them back together again.

By Sara Carter

"A review of a classified document outlining what is described as extensive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act abuse was made available to all House members Thursday and the revelations could lead to the removal of senior officials in the FBI and Department of Justice, several sources with knowledge of the document stated. These sources say the report is “explosive,” stating they would not be surprised if it leads to the end of Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel investigation into President Trump and his associates..."


What amazed me was there was no reporting on the news I listened to last night about this. Just the CR.. Blah, blah, blah.

Stay tuned  :coffeeNews:

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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2018, 08:57:46 AM »
 I saw it last night on FOX around 1200hrs. I can't remember the Black Lady's name but it was a special announcement. They had a congressman on saying it should be open to the public.
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 09:03:34 AM »
Yeah, there are a few Congressmen on the interwiz this morning that wrote, when the Senates version of the CR comes back to the House, they will not vote for it unless Ryan makes it public.

There is a lot of manoeuvring in Congress today. Stay tuned... :coffeeNews:
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2018, 09:20:04 AM »
 There is a slew of stories here

http://www.breitbart.com/
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2018, 06:15:08 PM »
I imagine there will be many "suicides" and or "robbery's gone bad" happening to anyone with credible info  :cowboy:
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2018, 06:30:27 PM »
I imagine there will be many "suicides" and or "robbery's gone bad" happening to anyone with credible info  :cowboy:

 That's what scares me, the fact that they can/will eliminate those who know the most and stifle the investigation.  :coffeeNews: 
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2018, 06:33:15 PM »
 The Republican who ran for Governor here was on a local radio station and he said this investigation will take seven to eight years to get everyone all of the way up and down.
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2018, 07:25:08 AM »
Maybe JoJo. Me I want to see people fired, then loose their cushy Guberment pensions then indictments can be handed out but the first two first.

Lets look back to Watergate as a bench mark of sorts. Dean was indicted and he sang like a canary. Once that happened then indictments were handed out. From point of indictment to justice being served took ~ 2 years. here is a partial list:

The Watergate scandal resulted in 69 government officials being charged and 48 being found guilty, including:[3]

    John N. Mitchell, Attorney General of the United States who resigned to become Director of Committee to Re-elect the President, convicted of perjury about his involvement in the Watergate break-in. Served 19 months of a one- to four-year sentence.[18]
    Richard Kleindienst, Attorney General, convicted of "refusing to answer questions" (contempt of court); given one month in jail.[86]
    Jeb Stuart Magruder, Deputy Director of Committee to Re-elect the President,[19] pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to the burglary, and was sentenced to 10 months to four years in prison, of which he served 7 months before being paroled.[87]
    Frederick C. LaRue, Advisor to John Mitchell, convicted of obstruction of justice. He served four and a half months.[87]
    H. R. Haldeman, Chief of Staff for Nixon, convicted of conspiracy to the burglary, obstruction of justice, and perjury. Served 18 months in prison.[88]
    John Ehrlichman, Counsel to Nixon, convicted of conspiracy to the burglary, obstruction of justice, and perjury. Served 18 months in prison.[89]
    Egil Krogh, aide to John Ehrlichman, sentenced to six months for his part in the Daniel Ellsberg case.[87]
    John W. Dean III, counsel to Nixon, convicted of obstruction of justice, later reduced to felony offenses and sentenced to time already served, which totaled 4 months.[87]
    Dwight L. Chapin, deputy assistant to Nixon, convicted of perjury.[87]
    Maurice Stans, United States Secretary of Commerce who resigned to become Finance Chairman of Committee to Re-elect the President, convicted of multiple counts of illegal campaigning, fined $5,000 (in 1975 – $22,700 today).[90]
    Herbert W. Kalmbach, personal attorney to Nixon, convicted of illegal campaigning. Served 191 days in prison and fined $10,000 (in 1974 – $49,600 today).[87]
    Charles W. Colson, special counsel to Nixon, convicted of obstruction of justice. Served 7 months in Federal Maxwell Prison.[86]
    Herbert L. Porter, aide to the Committee to Re-elect the President. Convicted of perjury.[87]

Convictions among members of the Watergate "burglary" team included:

    G. Gordon Liddy, Special Investigations Group, convicted of masterminding the burglary, original sentence of up to 20 years in prison.[87][91] Served 4½ years in federal prison.[92]
    E. Howard Hunt, security consultant, convicted of masterminding and overseeing the burglary, original sentence of up to 35 years in prison.[87][91] Served 33 months in prison.[93]
    James W. McCord Jr., convicted of six charges of burglary, conspiracy and wiretapping.[87] Served 2 months in prison.[92]
    Virgilio Gonzalez, convicted of burglary, original sentence of up to 40 years in prison.[87][91] Served 13 months in prison.[92]
    Bernard Barker, convicted of burglary, original sentence of up to 40 years in prison.[87][91] Served 18 months in prison.[94]
    Eugenio Martínez, convicted of burglary, original sentence of up to 40 years in prison.[87][91] Served 15 months in prison.[95]
    Frank Sturgis, convicted of burglary, original sentence of up to 40 years in prison.[87][91] Served 10 months in prison.[95]
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2018, 03:19:18 PM »
Saw an interesting report on CNN yesterday afternoon. They were intereviewing a Dem operative with some video comments by Dem Congressman.

Effectively said-- This "secret memo" is simply a brouhaha conjured up by the republicans containing nothing worthwhile and generally bogus info designed to simply discredit Mueller and his investigation of Trump.

It contains classified info and should not be made public.  With world events we cannot stop 702 and need to keep FISA and courts going-- to protect civil liberties.

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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2018, 05:15:21 PM »
I heard on FOX there is no classified info BUT there is plenty of incriminating info and it needs to be released to the public without any redactions
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2018, 06:20:18 PM »
 
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Effectively said-- This "secret memo" is simply a brouhaha conjured up by the republicans containing nothing worthwhile and generally bogus info designed to simply discredit Mueller and his investigation of Trump.

Fox said many Republicans read it but onlyone democrat. If he wasn't the one to have read it I suspect he is just trying to down play it's importance hoping they don't release it.
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2018, 07:56:37 PM »
I'm interested in seeing how much information is going to be released.  I understand the Intelligence Committee has started the process to release the memo, but it will be heavily redacted.  So depending upon the amount of redaction, it may not be informative.  Maybe, by chance, there will one congressman who will have the balls to release the memo un-redacted.

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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2018, 08:49:12 PM »
I'm interested in seeing how much information is going to be released.  I understand the Intelligence Committee has started the process to release the memo, but it will be heavily redacted.  So depending upon the amount of redaction, it may not be informative.  Maybe, by chance, there will one congressman who will have the balls to release the memo un-redacted.

It can only be redacted IF there is confidential information in it and even then the POTUS will make the final decision
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2018, 09:33:31 AM »
How has this not "leaked" yet?

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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2018, 09:46:52 AM »
How has this not "leaked" yet?

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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2018, 10:48:35 AM »
Yes many of the Dems are saying it is a "nothing burger". Yet as already written, only one (1) Dem House member has read it.

If it is in fact a NB, then the Dems should have no objection to its release.
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2018, 06:32:06 PM »
House Intelligence Committee voted down the release of the five page document which outlined the FBI's improper use of FISA warrants.

If you think it should be released I would suggest you calling your Congressman.

Oh the poor stupid folks should not see the memo...It is too complicated for you.  :facepalm:
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2018, 08:32:29 PM »
It looks like the Committee voted to not release a Democrat version of the memo, but did indeed vote to release the original FISA memo.  So Trump has five days to decide whether he wants the memo to actually go public.  My impression is that the Alt right is over anticipating as to what is in the memo.  I guess we'll see next week.  Lock and load!

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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2018, 09:08:42 PM »
 The radical left always brings up something to lessen a President Trump win such as "He was thinking of firing Muiler". I think the President will give his speech tomorrow, wait one day allowing the radicals to bring up another phony story and then the President will release the memo shutting down their fake story.
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2018, 07:32:23 AM »
Yeah folks I got it wrong.

Jackalope, you are 100% correct, it was the DEM's memo that was shot down not the HIC memo. My only excuse is my cold which has taken a turn for the worse.

Mr. Trump will not release it till the fervor from tonight's SOTU speech is over. If nothing else, Trump is a good marketer and will pick the perfect time.  ;) 

Keep in mind we have a shit-ton (Accounting term) of stuff on the docket this week.

> State of the Union,
> Super bowl,
> Ground Hog Day,

...to name a few.
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Re: Congress Received Subpoenaed FISA Information
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2018, 01:56:00 PM »
Things are running a week or 3 behind prior thoughts around here.  But seem to be beginning to happen in a bit of a line with what you gents thought and further away from what I was thinking.

Either way, lets get this chit going.  I will share a cell with hiLIARy for a week.  Just to teach and learn from her.   :enraged:

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