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Offline JohnyMac

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Movie - Snowpiercer
« on: August 26, 2014, 08:55:04 AM »
Has anybody watched Snowpiercer yet? Burt suggested that MrsMac and I give it a try so we did last Saturday night. It was available via Amazon via ROKU.

The genera is apocalyptic, post a global cooling event. Here is one of the trailers.   
Snowpiercer Official US Release Trailer #1 (2014) - Chris Evans Movie HD


MrsMac loved the movie and we got into a discussion about the movie's theme and sub-story post watching it. Before I post what we finally derived from the movie I thought I would ask the forum if anybody else has seen it.
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Re: Movie - Snowpiercer
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2014, 09:33:37 AM »
I watched it... It isn't very good. Just watch it if you're really bored and have nothing better to do.

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Re: Movie - Snowpiercer
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2014, 09:53:19 AM »
IMO, the movie was worth watching via a DVD but not spending the money to watch in a movie theater. The sub-story is worth chatting about though.

APX, I thought the sub-story was interesting
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in that the train had all aspects of society from the homeless, middle class, police, drug users, ultra rich, etc.

Then there is Ed Harris, who we are a fan of.  ;)
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Re: Movie - Snowpiercer
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2014, 10:24:40 AM »
It has been too long since I watched it... I need to watch it again.  It was not bad as far as environmental/dystopia movies go.  Certainly better that "Waterworld."   :lmfao:
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Re: Movie - Snowpiercer
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2014, 02:31:05 PM »
I hope those that watched did so on the full 3 hour international release. Not the 2.5 hour US release. Because it cuts away a big chunk of the context. So if things seemed "unfinished" or the plot was not solid, then that's why.



While this didn't hit me as I was watching the movie, upon it's conclusion I realized that the storyline provides an accurate analogy of the human condition rather then a believable post apocalyptic scenario.

A vessel shooting through a frigid void making one full circumgyration every year. On it every known human alive stuck with each other through geography with no hope of exit.

The train is earth.



On this train there is a system of order, that has lasted for as long as most can remember.
This is maintained at it's core level (back of the train) through the use of aggression, deadly force & punitive punishment.



The further you distance yourself from that it becomes through the use of religion: Creepy lady voice* (...sAcred ENgine, and sO 'this. )



Mass indoctrination of the youth: (Wilford!!!!!!)



Bread and circuses: (drugs)



And planned & controlled revolution: (the messages)



There is a reason however for all this control and violence that is revealed at the very end of the movie. In order for the engine of the train to keep going there is a need for constant exploitation and slave labor of the most helpless among them.



This is probably the most important part of the movie. Because it show the viewer that the system of the train is inherently wrong, evil you might say... Which leads you to wonder is there an other option? Can man survive outside of this train system? this government system?

This is where the switch happens. At this moment "the world / train" as you know it is revealed to be the final and most effective form of control that has actually worked on you the viewer through out the movie and that life is possible without it. (the Korean escape).

Through out the movie you follow in the footsteps of the protagonist Curtis so when in the end he is left alone with himself and the option of restructuring the Order / Government on the train / world with the help of Wilford, you being in that sacred engine with Curtis are being asked the same question. What now?



Because the analogy of Wilford is not that he's some dictator, king or evil business entrepreneur.
He is your acceptance of aggression on your fellow man.







Ok guys that's enough for me... Keep track of your shoes folks.

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Re: Movie - Snowpiercer
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2014, 08:35:22 PM »
GREAT write-up Burt!  :thumbsUp:
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Re: Movie - Snowpiercer
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2014, 10:04:03 PM »
Wow nice analysis Burt!! :dance:
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Re: Movie - Snowpiercer
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2014, 06:31:13 AM »
As Jmac has said before........ I'm speechless. Wow, Burt. Just wow.  :bravo:

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Re: Movie - Snowpiercer
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2015, 11:40:14 PM »
I just watched the movie and thought it was very good. I gathered a very similar analogy as Burt.

It shows that a system built on a foundation of aggression must oppress in order to survive but is NOT the only way or even the best way. The movie constantly refers to "a balance". This represents the minimum level of oppression that must be carried out in order to keep the constantly collapsing system afloat.. The people at the back of the train represent "the people". They are constantly victimized under the justification of a greater good. As the people fight their way forward on the train they encounter the various levels of a society built on government. For example the train car that is full of dudes with weapons. They represent the government protectors, also known as our police. The crazy lady represents the trains dictator. She's not REALLY in charge but she gives the orders that are given to her. You can see one example of this when she commands her police to kill exactly 74% of the people, an order given to her from the top.

The next stop is the brainwashing of the youth, to ensure that the train maintains the illusion of being the only possible way to survive. (Don't read past here if you don't want to know the ending) Eventually they get to the front of the train and the main characters decide to risk death to find out if they really need the train to survive. Their actions pay off, at least for the girl and the boy. They find out that they didn't need the train(government) after all, as they find the environment to be warmer than they thought and see life out there as well.
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