Unchained Preppers
General Category => Introductions => Topic started by: henk on April 02, 2017, 05:23:43 AM
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Hi,my name is Henk and I am a farmer in the Mpumalanga province of South Africa.More than 3000 farmers have been murdered in the past 20 years.The rate of murders for farmers is 133 per 100 000 people,the highest murder rate in the world.More than 10 000 farm attacks have occured.The average numbers of attackers are 8.These attacks are brutal and well planned,I have survived 3 attacks,in each one I had to use deadly force.We are currently headed for a full scale civil war and have been preparing for it for several years
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First off henk welcome to the forum. There are a lot of good folks on this forum some of which are from your neck of the woods. We are all preparing for what is coming our way now, tomorrow, or next year. Please do not hesitate asking questions or jumping in to answer another forum members question (s). The archives are full of some great things too so please don't hesitate checking that part of the forum out.
Now on what you wrote concerning the situation in South Africa: I am so sorry. It really brings home to the folks on this forum how lucky we truly are. Often we here in the USofA whine about how bad we have it yet there are other areas of the world where people are truly suffering. MrsMac and my prayers today are with you, your family, and your fellow farmers. God Bless. :cheers:
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Hi,my name is Henk and I am a farmer in the Mpumalanga province of South Africa.More than 3000 farmers have been murdered in the past 20 years.The rate of murders for farmers is 133 per 100 000 people,the highest murder rate in the world.More than 10 000 farm attacks have occured.The average numbers of attackers are 8.These attacks are brutal and well planned,I have survived 3 attacks,in each one I had to use deadly force.We are currently headed for a full scale civil war and have been preparing for it for several years
Wow. So is this coming civil war divided racially between the whites and the blacks of South Africa? I would like to hear more about the politics behind this if you would share.
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Whew, thats an introduction I never expected from anyone...
Welcome and hope we can help in some way
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Welcome HENK. Watch your six. Nelson Mandela was a murderer as was his wife. I can't understand why some Americans put him on a pedestal.
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Welcome Henk and good Luck!
I hope you and your's stay safe.
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Welcome to the community.
Keep safe.
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Greetings and Salutations Good Sir. Hail and Well Met. Glad to have you and hopefully you can get an idea or 2 from around here that is helpful to you.
Hope you can add some views of the US situation from an "other world" perspective. Anything we can do to be helpful to you-- just ask. I am sure all the thoughts and recommendations we could assist with will be quickly out there.
Like someone around recommends, keep your friends close and your rifle closer.
Nemo
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Welcome Henk
I have this same information from another source, Get out!
George
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Hello Henk
Welcome to the forum, I think we have a number of members from South Africa here.
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Welcome!!! :cheers:
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henk registered 21 March
first and only post-- April 2
Thats 5.5 months back. So, henk-- troll or not quite ready enough for #4?
Nemo
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Nemo, I notice that the south African members generally aren't exactly active and I think there may be a number of reasons for that.
Internet access here is still quite limited and expensive and especially in the farm areas it can be rather unreliable.
Prepping is almost frowned upon and if you buy up a couple of MREs here don't be surprised if the local authorities pay you a little visit. There have been instances of guys been held on suspicion of something or another just for having stockpiles.
With this one I'm reaching a bit but it is my experience. The S.A. guys like to get themselves fired up, so it's more comfortable in local forums with others in a similar situation so that they can work each other up into a frenzy.
I hope it's one of these and #4 wasn't the one that got him. Honestly I haven't really heard many reports of attacks coming out of Mpumalanga (don't you guys just love the names in my country? I can barely pronounce half of them) But that province has always been a bit divided from the rest of us and the attacks are happening all over all the time.
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thedigininja, why do the authorities not like prepping? To me at least, it seems to be good if one is self sufficient. So if there is a serious drama, at least the preppers are not a burden on the authorities.
None of my business...Have you and MrsNija thought about moving to a less hostile country? Again, none of my business just wondering.
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JM if i may be so bold as to venture a guess -
Prepping for a disaster is just about the same as prepping to go to war.
think of a castle with its building and the supplies and soldiers training - a castle is a war machine.
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now put yourself in the mindset of a government not confident of its own place or authority - recipe for paranoia.
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people who are afraid and have no plan hate people who are concerned and have a plan.
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I think that might be a good guess.
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Thats why those right wing extremist survivalist loons here are eyed with disdain by the folks who know the govt will be able to help them and take care of them.
Nemo
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Thats why those right wing extremist survivalist loons here are eyed with disdain by the folks who know the govt will be able to help them and take care of them.
Nemo
oh SNAP. :lmfao:
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I agree its paranoia Kbop, but how small.
You know that the man who checks under his wife's bed when he comes home is probably cheating on her.
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On Breitebart tiday.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/10/14/epidemic-south-african-farm-murders-continues-gunmen-shoot-elderly-victim-dead/ (http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/10/14/epidemic-south-african-farm-murders-continues-gunmen-shoot-elderly-victim-dead/)
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self delted
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jmac, the problem is you're thinking logically. When it comes to S.A. authorities the rule of thumb is to take the logical and turn it on it's head.
kbop hit the nail on the head. If you're white and you're planning for a situation where the government can't take care of the people that means that you must be planning on over throwing the government.
I'm pretty sure that I've made another post about it somewhere on the forum but it's not even legal for civilians to be in possession of MREs and you're automatically considered militant if you are found with them.
I used to have a contact in the military who organized me surplus ratpacks (field rations) and even that was stopped.
We have looked into moving but with no luck so far. Everyone is tightening their immigration laws and I have a juvenile record which makes things even more difficult.
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I will be praying for you, your family, and your friends thedigininja!
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:thumbsUp:
Always appreciated, Jmac.