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Offline JohnyMac

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Pro-Hamas Protesters Now Using GMRS For Comms
« on: May 09, 2024, 12:30:21 PM »
I heard on the TV the other day that many of the Pro-Hamas protesters are using GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) for comms during the protests instead of cell phones. Yes the radios you can pick up for $10- a pair at Walmart.

I applaud them for thinking out of the box but they are worse than using a cell phone as there are only maybe 20+ pre selected channels which can easily be monitored by police and without a Brevity Code is like an old time party line.

To this day, I am surprised that someone in Antifa or BurnLootMurder Inc, have not picked up some BaoFeng's and use a pre selected frequency WITH a privacy code (s) that change frequency (maybe every 30-minutes or so) along with a Brevity code. To have relatively secure comms.

Add to that, a BaoFeng > Tablet > OTP code for specific cells within the protest and you have 100% secure comms.

If I was running a protest, I would have X cells within the protest. Communication between the cell leader & TOC and TOC & cell leader would be via BaoFeng > Tablet > OTP. Then within the cell comms would be between BaoFeng's via voice who's frequency and security code changed hourly to a predetermined frequency/code and use an individual cell centric Brevity code.

Easy peasy Japanesey.

For you folks who think I shouldn't of posted this, I would suggest, do not underestimate your enemy. I am sure to a degree, this is being done. This is complicated for sure and may not be for the newbie protester; However, each protest is a training exercise. With running exercises competence is gained. 

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Re: Pro-Hamas Protesters Now Using GMRS For Comms
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2024, 06:33:37 PM »
    Or they could just acquire some Chinese or Japanese portables that have digital modes, i.e., DMR, DSTAR, or Yaesu System Fusion.  It would give them some privacy, just by the virtue of being a digital signal.  The Empire would certainly figure it out, but it might take some time, and by then the event would be over.

    Or better yet, get some of the TYT radios, certain models do have an encryption capability.  It would give the signals intelligence workers something to do... our tax dollars at work!
« Last Edit: May 09, 2024, 06:36:10 PM by Jackalope »

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Re: Pro-Hamas Protesters Now Using GMRS For Comms
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2024, 07:59:34 PM »
Great suggestions Jackalope.  :thumbsUp: :cheers:
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Re: Pro-Hamas Protesters Now Using GMRS For Comms
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2024, 09:18:42 PM »
OK I'm not a radio guy like the rest of you but here are my .02

Codes and whatnot for the fancy rigs is cool but there are too many idiots in the mix of people and codes will be forgotten or easily given up during interrogation plus they may be trackable in some form of triangulation or something....

The simple walmart radios are easy to use, easy to understand and as far as I know they cannot be "found" because the signals are so common and weak.

Most importantly, in my eyes, these protest are designed to test the defenses of the police (or whoever) and perfect the aggressive actions of their main force(s) so comms are not that important. The leaders want to be able to send in multiple groups with each group having an task independent of the other groups, to create the most chaos.

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Re: Pro-Hamas Protesters Now Using GMRS For Comms
« Reply #4 on: Today at 12:19:33 AM »
     A radio transmitter can be located within seconds, if the proper equipment is available.  Amateur radio operators actually have competitions that focus on locating transmitters, using just very basic equipment, often just a receiver with a signal strength meter, an attenuator, and a directional (yagi) antenna.  Those FRS and GMRS Walmart radios would be extremely easy to find.

    If these protestors have proper training, they would know how to use comms to direct their troops, and it seems like they do indeed have training.  As noted, command could use brevity codes to direct squad leaders, and those listening in won't have any idea what's being sent.  They probably have multiple battle plans, and they just need to advise which plan to use.  It would be very simple.  Seems like they used comms back during the 2020 festivities too.

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Re: Pro-Hamas Protesters Now Using GMRS For Comms
« Reply #5 on: Today at 12:22:48 AM »
Using PL tones or CTS tones is not going to stop people from hearing the message. When it gets bad enough, it's going to be just like war. Shoot the guy holding the radio first. :boltAction: