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Bundy's ranch information flow thoughts
APX808:
This reflects my personal opinion as someone outside Bundy's ranch wanting to know
what was going on and just receiving reports like "This is a mess, no one knows shit,
the feds didn't shot yet".
I believe Bundy's Ranch event demonstrated a big flaw in Militia's SOP and is that they
failed to create an official information source until a week after it started.
An official reporting channel is key absolutely, specially when the opponent is the gov.
Venezuela is a clear example, the gov and media report nothing is going on, but people
using social media like Twitter report the abuse and violence they are suffering.
If shots were fired and the militia guys in there were reduced to turtle food, the gov could
start talking about how the domestic terrorist attacked and they had no other option but
to repel the attack, and manipulate how the history is presented to the public.
Every unconventional force first has to obtain populace support to win, otherwise they will
fail like Guevara in Congo and Bolivia. Part of getting populace support comes from showing
them the flip side of the coin of what mass media feeds them.
A lot of people love to bash Occupy movement, but even if you don't fully agree with Occupy
movement methodologies or ideology, there is always something to learn, specially for a country
like the US, where you like it or not you don't have much experience manifesting against the
government.
Occupy movement guys as soon as they took a place set up free Wi-Fi networks for people to
be able to communicate and report anything that was happening, that is awesome, because
the first thing the gov does is to shut down cell phone networks.
Also in Spain they created something called the "wifineta" that is a conjunction of the words
Wi-Fi and truck in Spanish, that truck has the equipment to provide Wi-Fi and 3G for the people
around it.
Also we need to keep in mind the COMSEC, if there is a centralized information outlet, it
could define what should be public knowledge and what not, and then instruct the protestors
about the information release guidelines.
Check this videos of the Occupy Wi-Fi providing tents.
Valencia.guifi.net en acampada Valencia 15M
A Director for the Free Network Foundation Gives Free WiFI, Advice.
crudos:
Good stuff APX, you make some very valid points and concerns for moving forward from the Bundy Ranch event.
Kentactic:
Yep, definitely room for improvement. The problem in today's world is that the guys who are willing to stand up and literally risk their lives in dome cases, aren't really the smart tech guys. The Occupy movement is a crowd FULL of tech geeks. They would die if their Iphone stopped working. They certainly have the media part covered. Unfortunately they'll never get anything done due to the lack of will to put themselves in physical harms way(getting pepper sprayed so you can tweet about it doesn't count). Kinda makes covering their movement pointless.
If things got serious I think good would prevail regardless of the lack of media coverage. If it got crazy the government would down all electronic avenues of communication anyways. The official site for updates would be down etc a WiFi hotspot in a war zone isnt going to happen.
APX808:
The governments of Syria, Egypt, Venezuela or Iran were unable to stop people from posting pictures and details of what was going on even when they resorted to extreme measures like shutting down completely Internet and they had the services of American companies, like Blue Coat.
And it's not only Wi-Fi I'm talking about, you can use digital modes over radio to transmit images or text.
There is a lot of people putting effort in helping people prepare in not such cool stuff like communications, like Sam Culper at guerrillamerica.com, Sparks at Signal Corps, AMRRON or me with the COMSEC lessons.
People can find excuses to postpone their training or start researching and looking for ways to improve for the next time.
Kentactic:
--- Quote from: APX808 on April 20, 2014, 07:19:41 PM ---The governments of Syria, Egypt, Venezuela or Iran were unable to stop people from posting pictures and details of what was going on even when they resorted to extreme measures like shutting down completely Internet and they had the services of American companies, like Blue Coat.
And it's not only Wi-Fi I'm talking about, you can use digital modes over radio to transmit images or text.
There is a lot of people putting effort in helping people prepare in not such cool stuff like communications, like Sam Culper at guerrillamerica.com, Sparks at Signal Corps, AMRRON or me with the COMSEC lessons.
People can find excuses to postpone their training or start researching and looking for ways to improve for the next time.
--- End quote ---
I hope you dont think im saying that knowing these things isn't important. Im not really sure what im saying. Comms is the most vital and the most fragile thing in a "revolution".
I just think our government can easily kill all electronic forms of communication if it is beneficial to them. At bundy militia meetings often times everyone was asked to leave their phones at their tents etc. If they are capable of listening to our conversation through an OFF cellphone they certainly can halt any radio transmitted data.
Dont take US government funded revolutions as good examples of the limits of their abilities to shutdown comms. If they want it to stop they CAN stop it.
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