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Offline pkveazey

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Medical Comments
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:57:30 PM »
There might be a need for Medical Prepping comments. As part of my prepping supplies, I have a whole section of supplies relating to Medical needs. Besides the usual bandages, medicines and antiseptic things, I have digital thermometers, Stethoscopes, Blood pressure machines, Oxygen monitor(finger clips), surgical clamps, etc. I'm not a Doctor but I know how to use those items but If there is a Doctor handy and he doesn't have any equipment, you're all set and he can use that stuff to better assess a persons medical needs.

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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 01:20:44 AM »
Good mention there pkveazey.

We have also stocked up on medical items whenever we find a bulk deal that justifies the purchase.

We set aside the excess in some containers the we refer to our clinic supplies.

So if we run into a medical professional we have set aside supplies for them to set up a rudimentary clinic.

Nice to see someone else thinking in a like direction.

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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2018, 08:57:13 AM »
Good thinking.
We also do not have an MD (or a dentist).
Our supplies are mostly at the First Aid level though...  :hiding:
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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2018, 06:56:00 PM »
I have a md living across the street from me.  I have not met his wife but I think she is a RNP.

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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2018, 08:30:18 PM »
 Having had cellulitis in my leg I have stocked up on antibiotics and Mupirocin ointment. Can only get it by prescription, its better than Triple Antibiotic ointment which I also have. Israeli bandage, scalpels, sponges and a host of other stuff.
 My grandson is an RN an hours drive north of here and I'm trying to get him into prepping. He is an outdoor sports fanatic also.     
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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2018, 07:11:26 AM »
@JoJo you can also get sulfa's for topical wound treatment- the are OTC.

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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2018, 08:03:28 AM »
 @Kbop thanks, I knew about sulfa but didn't know it was OTC.
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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2018, 05:29:35 PM »
UPDATE: The two OXIMETERS that I ordered showed up today and I tried one of them out. Damn! that thing worked perfectly. All I had to do was install the 2 AAA batteries and clip it on my finger. I pushed the little white button to reset it and in about 5 seconds it started reading out the heart rate and Oxygen level. I have a medical checkup next week and I'll drop off the other one for my Doctor to put in his medical prepper supplies. Yep, he's a moderate prepper and he might not have a spare at home. Every now and then, I give him a prepper item or two for his SHTF needs. Some of the items I've passed along to him are a bugout backpack, two pre-programmed Baofeng HT's, Digital Thermometer, a small folding shovel, Bowie Knife, and now the digital Oximeter. As far as Food and Medicine, he's on his own. If you have a friend that is a Doctor, you might want to make sure you have their phone number because traveling to them might not be an option.

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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2019, 08:50:07 PM »
Even my skillset is completely useless without a surgeon somewhat nearby to receive someone I've worked on and them actually make them better. Basic nursing skills are something most people should know in even a grid up situation. And that's little n nursing. like bathing, feeding, and basic patient care. All the meds in the world are worthless without extensive knowledge on how to use them properly. Most people in a grid down situation are going to die from hygiene issues and complications from a lack of clean water. Cover those two and you've prevented most causes of death. Everything else is only really handled by modern medicine and everything else it requires. 

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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2019, 09:35:31 AM »
Even my skillset is completely useless without a surgeon somewhat nearby to receive someone I've worked on and them actually make them better. Basic nursing skills are something most people should know in even a grid up situation. And that's little n nursing. like bathing, feeding, and basic patient care. All the meds in the world are worthless without extensive knowledge on how to use them properly. Most people in a grid down situation are going to die from hygiene issues and complications from a lack of clean water. Cover those two and you've prevented most causes of death. Everything else is only really handled by modern medicine and everything else it requires.

Exactly! Glad to see you put this out there.
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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2019, 12:07:30 PM »
A second comment on this thread: A lot of the MED KIT things that I have are things I can use but I also have a bunch of stuff that a Doctor should use. My setup is a bit of overkill but there could easily be a situation where I have a Doctor available but he might not have what he needs. I'll have all sorts of devices(Stethoscope, Blood Pressure Cuff, Oximeter, Clamps, Blood Sugar Test kit, Thermometer, Surgical Masks, etc.) and Meds that the Doctor might need but not have. I can just hear a Doctor say," If only I had some Antibiotics or some Steroids or Fungus meds". Then I could say, "Here you go. What do you need?" I even have a geiger counter to check people or the environment for radiation levels. Too much stuff is always better than not enough stuff.

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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2019, 04:53:29 PM »
BP cuff and stethoscope are super easy to learn how to use. Stop by your local EMS office and see if you can get them to teach you. They can provide pretty useful information if you know what you’re looking for.

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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2019, 03:25:51 AM »
BP cuff and stethoscope are super easy to learn how to use. Stop by your local EMS office and see if you can get them to teach you. They can provide pretty useful information if you know what you’re looking for.

I can use all that stuff and I use some it to check my own self out if something doesn't seem right. My hope is that if I'm where a Dr. is and he doesn't have equipment or meds, I might be able to help him treat people.

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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2019, 06:53:33 AM »
Medical preps are one of the missing or incomplete preps for many folks.  My wife and I are retired Firefighter/Paramedics and she is also a Critical Care Nurse.
Books on emergency medicine can be found in most used book stores of college book stores and are extremely valuable learning tools. Patient assessment skills are one of the basic skills that can be learned by anyone and is most often taught as a head to toe survey.  T.C.C.C. Tactical Cassualty Combat Care is a system and set of skills for treating penetrating wounds and care under fire that everyone should be familiar with.  Bassic dressing and bandaging supplies are a must and most people do not understand how much of these supplies are used for continued care a patient. Continued care of one patient, re-assessing and dressing/bandage every 6-8 hours for a week to 2 weeks for major wounds would exauhst most peoples supply.  Splints and slings for fractures and joint injuries are also needed. Antibiotics can still be purcheased a pet stores in the fish department and triple antibiotic ointment are invaluable for small and/or healing wounds. the basic equipment of B.P, cuff and stethoscope, otoscope, pulse oxymeter, thermometers,  small tweezers, maganafying glass, airway adjuncts such as oral and nasal airways and a hand operated ventilator wound be a good start.  Every piece of tactical gear should include a "Blow Out Kit" and every back pack should have and individual first aid kit (I.F.A.K.).  Carry equipmet should also be considered to bring adequate supplies to a victim.  A combat medic bag, medical back pack and E.M.S. trauma boxes would be useful.  Personal protective gear such as N-95 masks, eyes protection, latex gloves and fluid impervious gowns will also need to be stocked.  An area set aside as a medical care unit with good lighting would be useful with storage boxes for supplies, a bed and linens/pillows, oxygen cylinder, masks, nasal cannulas would also be a good idea.  An isolation area seperated by sheet plastic may be needed for the sick and a quarrantine area for sick people who are contagious.  All of this and much more can seem overwhelming but it can be accomplished with a little training and guidance.  Having trained emergency medical personnel and a medical clinic is an essential part of any preppper/survival groups efforts.  Standardized equipment lists for blow out kits and I.F.A.K.s and training on their use is a good start.
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Re: Medical Comments
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2019, 10:49:04 PM »
SF has actually been reporting A LOT of success with pushing dressing changes to every 2 or 3 days for most wounds. From what I have been hearing it's a significant decrease in overall healing time.

I'm teaching a TC3 course at NC Scouts location in June. Hopefully we will see plenty of UP members there.