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cornkiller1

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Night time prepping?
« on: February 01, 2013, 07:35:54 PM »
Half of the day is dark. Imagine WROL, Street lights don't work. Only candles.

Now how many of you have night vision and what kind of night vision? I believe having night vision is a critical prep in surviving during the night. You can't see him you can't shoot him.

I've invested into 2 night vision set ups. ones for just spying at night, general Recon and the others a head mount device. I do have a surefire flashlight with a IR filter on it.

One is a Bushnell stealthview and the others an ATN viper head mount.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 08:08:02 PM »
Question.

How much have you used night vision and how familiar are you with it?  Not just wandering around your house and yard either :P
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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 08:08:50 PM »
a little bit with the national guard. I think they were the PVS-7's. I had a set issued to use for night ops, shoots and blackout driving.
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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 09:11:17 PM »
Nice to have in specific situations. But way down low on my list.
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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2013, 09:23:50 PM »
well share, what's on your list?

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2013, 10:54:16 PM »
a little bit with the national guard. I think they were the PVS-7's. I had a set issued to use for night ops, shoots and blackout driving.

Man.... the 7bravo's are my bitches man.... I fucking love those damn things. I hate the PVS14's makes me all lopsided feeling.
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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 11:41:30 PM »
well share, what's on your list?

food, water purification, medical supplies.....
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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2013, 12:01:57 AM »
 MNT, you don't have those yet? I know you can't have enough but I recently hit 6 months. I'm still lacking on my antibiotics..


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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2013, 12:06:35 AM »
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Because it takes 60 min. or longer for your eyes to adapt to the dark and much longer for full adaptation (and the older you get the longer it takes). 

Then why not use a monocular instead of binocular. The pirate method was to wear an eye patch above deck and when you go below to switch the patch to the other eye so you always have an eye adjusted to the dark.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2013, 12:36:31 AM »
I got some red lens tape from the auto parts store to put on some cheap back up flashlights for low light discipline situations.
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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2013, 12:42:07 AM »
I got some red lens tape from the auto parts store to put on some cheap back up flashlights for low light discipline situations.
Same here, definitely redneckin' it lol
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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2013, 03:11:28 AM »
As always Walker your input is well appreciated.  Thanks
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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2013, 06:22:23 AM »
walker must have wrote some pretty gnarly papers in highschool/college.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2013, 10:52:49 AM »
I almost failed out of high school, and I have Lysdexia. No shit.

Did ya hear about the dyslexic agnostic that suffered from insomnia? He sat up all night, wondering if there really is a dog.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2013, 03:01:06 PM »
If you are interested but can't afford to play check out Lucid Science. Under their Projects tab you will see all sorts of home brew active NODs.

I know they are Active not Passive, if you want to have that discussion let know.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2013, 04:40:58 PM »
that is actually really interesting TG. I can see how that knowledge can be beneficial.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2013, 07:57:14 PM »
Yeah cornkiller! Someone wants to look behind the curtain.

So how Night Vision Devices or Night Optical Devices work is they make the Infrared spectrum of light visible.

The early gen stuff was all Active meaning that it used an IR Illuminator because the tech wasn't there to amplify the ambient IR. That's cool because IR isn't visible to the naked eye but it stops being cool when other players have NVD/NOD gear.

That spurred the tech to catch up and now all the modern gear is using Light Amplification instead which requires no Illuminator.

Now we've all seen that tricky little laser/illum on high speed dude's rifles. What's that for?

That is a critical piece of gear, even passive sets can't see in total darkness. So you'll need an Illuminator for house work. The laser pointer is because you can't get your eye behind the sights worth a fuck even if you could see them.

You got it?

I wanna talk about NOD and prepping but you got to understand all that jazz first.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2013, 08:35:09 PM »
Oh yeah makes total sense. I guess that's the big difference between the gen 1's vs the gen 2's.

The active being a lot cheaper. I wish I could afford a passive set like you speak.  But most average people don't have any type of night vision. Something is better than nothing.

I was actually thinking of getting one of those high speed lasers to take shots at nights.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2013, 01:31:52 AM »
You're right that you are better off then most folks for sure. Against the unwashed masses your sets with work just fine.

You might want to read what Lucid Science has to say about it. For next to nothing you could make a laser sight/illum that could rival a commercial model.

I've got another long day (today was 13 hours long) ahead of me tomorrow so I'm going to have to ask you to stand by on the next installment of thatGuy's rants and raves.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2013, 02:11:20 AM »
I can't sleep...

So let's talk about a couple of things that could be done to make you're equipment more effective for you.

One of the first things I would look into is making an illuminator that mounts to your rifle and adding a waterproof micro switch to your head mounted set so you can shut off the illuminator on it. If you run against anyone with NODs you might not want to have a beacon on your forehead, right?

Another thing I would look into is making IR flood lights for around the house and yard. Not only will this let you use your headset passively but it will blind anyone with a true passive set forcing them to take pot shots at your lights. That is a win, win in my book.

Not only will it allow you to see what you are doing but it will really unass anyone who is using a illbegotten passive set. Without the proper understanding of what is happening they will no doubt assume their set has quit working and be left with no recourse but to remove them leaving them worse off then if they had never put them on.

Once again Lucid Science will show you how to make a laser into an illuminator and laser sight.


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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2013, 09:56:11 AM »
You know TG, you are brilliant! I just bookmarked that site. Thanks  [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2013, 12:45:49 PM »
Another thing I would look into is making IR flood lights for around the house and yard. Not only will this let you use your headset passively but it will blind anyone with a true passive set forcing them to take pot shots at your lights. That is a win, win in my book.

Not only will it allow you to see what you are doing but it will really unass anyone who is using a illbegotten passive set. Without the proper understanding of what is happening they will no doubt assume their set has quit working and be left with no recourse but to remove them leaving them worse off then if they had never put them on.
^^^Brilliant concept^^^

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2013, 02:09:01 PM »
Even a blind hog finds a nut from time to time.

Thanks guys.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2013, 08:59:46 PM »
Since I have a high speed connection at the work place I thought I would look up some vids to show you guys.

This first one is of a home build Active set using a low lux spy cam. Skip to 3:30, what I want you to notice is the IR illuminator on her rig. Target indicator for sure. Especially if someone raises their own NODs and sees only darkness out there!

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This video is kind of hectic but it was what led me to start thinking about NODs. See the illuminators and lasers everywhere.. If you had a Active set with no illum running you would still see those beams.. bad times.

GRAPHIC firefight with Insurgents in Iraq with night vision cam


This is a fantastic video for glint tape, ir chems, illums and lasers.

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Re: Night time prepping?
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2013, 10:58:40 PM »
Pretty cool man. I just got a optic Cabelas catalog and you can buy a monocular night scope for $200.00.
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