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Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You
« on: August 28, 2021, 11:46:44 AM »
Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You


I didn't know where to post this. First, I thought The Health Board then as I was writing it the Security & Survival Board. As I post it, I will put it in the General Discussion Board as it is meant for discussion and input.

I did post a bit about this observation and experience in a earlier post somewhere here however, I now think it is important enough to repost in its entirety and then follow up with a question.

On August 3, 2021, I took MrsMac to the Hospital ER, 50-minutes away in New York state. Our local hospital is not trusted by the locals or us based on some past experiences. As a matter of fact, the locals call it, "the animal hospital".

To make a long story short, five hours post our arrival at the ER, the ER Physician determined that MrsMac had the CCP Virus. During her tenure in the ER she was cold and I asked at the nurse station if she could have a blanket. About 5-minutes later a nurse came in with a blanket for her and me.

While draping MrsMac with the blanket and checking the bells and whistles hooked up to her, I asked the nurse, "How is your day going?"

The nurse looked at me and told me that she felt like crap and had a migraine level headache. She went on to say, "I took my second vaxx shot earlier today. My reaction to the first one was bad but this morning's vaxx has me on my heels."

I asked her why she even took the first Jab and she explained to me that Gov. Cuomo issued a mandate that all medical personnel that worked in the state had to be vaxxed by September 27, 2021, or would be terminated and the hospital is moving up the date to September 7. "I am a single mom and cannot afford to lose this job" she added.

This past Monday, MrsMac had a normal checkup scheduled so we went off to her doctor's office which was located in the hospital of the ER we went to earlier in the month. We walked into reception and there was nobody we recognized. They all acted like they were from the "B" team, and I ended up helping them with a few check-in procedures for the wife. After waiting for a bit (Unusual in the past) my wife was called and we walked over to a new, very young nurse.

As we walked through the catacombs of the back office, I only recognized one nurse. After MrsMac was shown her examining room and the normal tech items completed the nurse left and the doctor came in. After some small chit chat between my wife, the doctor, and me I asked her why there was all new receptionists and nurses. She said, "yeah. We have had some turnover. Some folks retired" and then changed the subject.

The next day I had my six months checkup however, I needed to have some blood work done before my appointment. I preregistered the day before and was given an appointment for forty-five minutes before my appointment with my doctor.

I showed up on time and the vampires den reception area was filled. I was given a pink slip of paper and was told to wait in the lobby. I walked back into the lobby and there were maybe a dozen folks with a pink piece of paper, standing and sitting around.

I hadn't been called five minutes before my doctor's appointment so I left and walked upstairs for my semi annual argument about my weight and other fun stuff.

At the door of my doctor's reception area was an elderly lady at a podium with a laptop computer and two people in line before me. After a bit of computer challenges, she looked past the two people in front of me and asked me to go to the checkout window in the bowels of the reception area. There was one person in front of me and once the window was free, I checked-in.

A quick comment. This is a big office that housed easily a dozen doctors, nurse practitoners, and physicians assistants. There is usually five receptionists and two check-out personnel. Counting the elderly lady at the front door there was three that day. The lady at the front door, the receptionist who checked me in, and one that was only answering phones. As I sat down, I noticed that there was a line at the door and at the one receptionist now.

About fifteen minutes after checking in, a nurse who I had never seen called my name.

I followed her through the catacombs of the inner office. As I was led through the maze, I only noticed one nurse who I recognized.   

While the nurse was taking my blood pressure and other vitals, I asked her, "What is going on here. There is a skeleton crew on, and I recognize only one nurse. What is going on?" She explained to me that folks were on vacation, several foks retired, and there has been a bit of turn over. I then said, "oh I thought it might be the vaxx mandate." She said nothing other than, "the doctor will be write in" as she left the examining room.

Ten minutes later (unusual), the doctor came in or actually my nurse practitoner, that I had been going to for almost three years. He was curios of how my CCP Virus drama was going and he did a very thorough exam. He asked me if I had any questions. I said, "yes" and they were...

1) I used to manage a $160-million company, so I know the signs of a personnel problem in an organization. 
2) I told him about what we experienced with MrsMac's doctor on Monday.
3) I told him about the back-up at the vampire's den.
4) Then I told him about his own office's front staff.

His replies were,
1a) "Yes, I know."
2a) "I do not belong to your wife's medical group so I cannot say what is happening over there."
3a) "I have no control over the lab."
4a) "Ahhh yes. There has been some retirements, and as we get closer to Labor day there are folks on vacation. Plus some
      minor normal turn over." Being the prick that I am I suggested to him I think the staff issue was due to the vaxx
      mandate and employees refusing to play. He looked down at his laptop and said nothing for a moment or two and then
      went through my meds and asked if I needed a renewal on any.

Keep in mind that this medical system probably employees 10,000 folks from custodians to brain surgeons.

I am not the sharpest bear in the woods but even I can see that they are losing folks right and left due to the vaxx mandate. The hospital system is replacing them with newly minted college graduate medical staff and bringing back retired personnel to help plug the holes in the dike. How will this affect the health of folks I wonder.

Now my question to the group is...

As many progressive states impose vaxx mandates on medical and state employees, how will this affect your wait time and or service at state agencies like tax departments, DMV offices, health departments & offices, truckers, police & fire departments, other?

What happens when the White House impose vaxx mandates on all federal employees like the military, Post Office, Alphabet Agency's, truckers, other? Just think of the Afghanistan drama.

What happens when the company you work for is pressured by state and federal agencies to pass their own vaxx mandate?

73 & God Bless folks. Vaxx passports are coming along with vaxx mandates to you.


« Last Edit: August 28, 2021, 11:59:56 AM by JohnyMac »
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Re: Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2021, 11:58:22 AM »
Its just one more step to divide the Country and it will work.
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Re: Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2021, 02:46:55 PM »
My work is already critically short-staffed, they absolutely cannot continue to operate without the unpoisoned employees. They will do it at some point, probably sooner rather than later, and it will drastically affect the local economy, as they are one of the largest, if not the largest employer in the area, besides all the local businesses that absolutely depend on our operation for their very existence.
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Re: Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2021, 04:01:32 PM »
I'm a nurse, and on my small office the only health care worker not vaccinated.  Nor will I be. I've made this clear to my manager several times.  Our front desk clerk was an early adopter, vaccinated over a year ago. I sit pretty much next to her every day. She's now in ICU with Covid and viral pneumonia.  Took a test Friday, no covid.   Ivermectin, vitamin C and vitamin D3.
If they try to make in mandatory, health care will be one of the first to adopt it.  Many hospitals already are.  If my place decides to play along, well, I'm 62 in a couple of months so I guess it'll be time to retire.

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Re: Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2021, 07:29:22 PM »
I understand RB. I retired when I was 60-years old, now 65. Did some odd business consulting jobs for kicks and giggles during those five years. If I didn't want the job my bid was high. If I did want the job my bid was low.  ;D

I am saddened to read about your colleague.
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Re: Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2021, 09:40:24 PM »
My Daughter works for the State and she said they are talking about mandatory Vax. I told het to prepare a WAVER OF RIGHTS and if her boss calls her in to demand that she be Vaccinated, for her to just hand them the Waiver of Rights and tell them to sign it first. The Waiver of Rights would state that if, after taking the vaccine, she contracts COVID 19 or has any adverse reactions she can sue for damages.

If they are so certain that the Vaccine is Safe and Effective, then they should be eager to sign it.

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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2021, 09:01:25 AM »
It will not affect me.  I'm an RN in the VA, and we already have the vaccine requirement.  I had #1 and #2 back in January.  I guess I'm one of the outliers because I never had any side effects (maybe they shot me up with sugar water?).   I haven't decided about a booster.  I'll probably wait and see how others do with it.
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Re: Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2021, 10:40:03 AM »
I want to make my position crystal clear.

My objection to the mandate is that it is a mandate that affects the rights of the American citizen. I do not give a crap if one takes the vaxx or not, just do not tell me I have to take it or I can not have it of I want it.

Back in January, because I am classified as a first responder being a RACES member for the county just north of me, I was offered The Jab. I and the majority of the department, politely refused. In February I personally was approached again by the EOC/911 head as I handle most of the Secretarial duties for RACES within the county. The pressure was steep yet I politely refused. Still handling the RACES paperwork.  ;)

@PKv, great suggestion on a Wavier of Rights document/contract. In my opinion, if I worked for a company that was debating about making its employees take the vaxx, and I chose to not take the vaxx, I would see my lawyer today to plan my/our strategy. 

@cooter,  Isn't it amazing how The Jab affects folks differently? I think that in 2018, 119 recipients of the Flu vaccine died. Now if you go to VARES (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) click on the proper filters you will see that there is over 13,000 direct deaths shared by the three manufactures of the Covid-19 vaxx.

Here is an interesting article for all to read, with updates.

In closing and yet again; I do not care if you take or do not take The Jab, just do not make it mandatory to earn a paycheck.  :chuky:
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Re: Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2021, 01:37:49 PM »
The more coercion and pressure they apply to try to convince me only makes me more suspicious. They seem panicked about getting everyone to take it right now. I suppose it makes me a bad person if I get pleasure from their panic?  :dance:
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Re: Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2021, 01:47:49 PM »
F2 I agree, I get pleasure from their panic?

The thing on the vaxx that really perks my defensive antenna is the used car salesman push that is coming from everywhere in the government.

Something just doesn't pass the smell test. To be honest with and with my  :tinfoil: firmly on my head, the Federal Government is leaving something out. Something "they" are not telling us.

Anyway, MrsMac and I have the CCP Virus antibodies racing through our veins as I type here today.   
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2021, 07:15:34 PM »
"Anyway, MrsMac and I have the CCP Virus antibodies racing through our veins as I type here today. "

 - an enviable position.   Especially since the first studies demonstrating acquired immunity is STRONG compared to that of "vaccines" are out there  and that it is ROBUST compared to mRNA "jabs". 

Some exposures to pathogens earn virtually  life-long immunity.   Other exposures earn only a "shelf-life"...    We do NOT have the publicly irrefutable numbers (statically trustworthy) declaring where on this spectrum Covid Exposer/Recovery lands.   

Remember:   this "Covid" is  product of bio-warfare research.   And while Past may be Prolog, new wrinkles could inform the story line in surprising ways.


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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2021, 08:48:56 AM »

@cooter,  Isn't it amazing how The Jab affects folks differently? I think that in 2018, 119 recipients of the Flu vaccine died. Now if you go to VARES (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) click on the proper filters you will see that there is over 13,000 direct deaths shared by the three manufactures of the Covid-19 vaxx.


I was in the Army in 1976.  The swine flu was the big thing that year.  We lined up in the day room and got our vaccines.  No choice given (except which arm  :)).  I think more people died from the vaccine than the swine flu.  That was why I was initially hesitant about the Covid vax.  I didn't want to be a beta tester. 

Some people I work with got the vax without major problems.  So far I personally know 3 people who got vaccinated and developed Covid later, none too seriously.  I was exposed to 2 of them for a couple of days before they developed symptoms, but I tested negative (twice) at work.  I also know 3 people who died from COVID, 2 were unvaccinated (I think) but had serious health issues before being infected.  The other was younger than me, I don't know if he got the jab, or if he had any underlying health problems.

It's a weird disease, which I guess you can expect from a designer plague.   Some people don't have much of a problem with it, some succumb quickly, some recover and have long-term (sometimes devastating) after effects.   

Personally, I think if someone doesn't want the vaccine, that's their business.
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Re: Mandatory Vaxxes - How Does That Affect You
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2021, 12:25:37 PM »

@cooter,  Isn't it amazing how The Jab affects folks differently? I think that in 2018, 119 recipients of the Flu vaccine died. Now if you go to VARES (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) click on the proper filters you will see that there is over 13,000 direct deaths shared by the three manufactures of the Covid-19 vaxx.


I was in the Army in 1976.  The swine flu was the big thing that year.  We lined up in the day room and got our vaccines.  No choice given (except which arm  :)).  I think more people died from the vaccine than the swine flu.  That was why I was initially hesitant about the Covid vax.  I didn't want to be a beta tester. 

Some people I work with got the vax without major problems.  So far I personally know 3 people who got vaccinated and developed Covid later, none too seriously.  I was exposed to 2 of them for a couple of days before they developed symptoms, but I tested negative (twice) at work.  I also know 3 people who died from COVID, 2 were unvaccinated (I think) but had serious health issues before being infected.  The other was younger than me, I don't know if he got the jab, or if he had any underlying health problems.

It's a weird disease, which I guess you can expect from a designer plague.   Some people don't have much of a problem with it, some succumb quickly, some recover and have long-term (sometimes devastating) after effects.   

Personally, I think if someone doesn't want the vaccine, that's their business.
Mike

Its not a weird disease, the issue is that we cannot get a straight answer from anyone in charge and the are changing their stories almost daily.

This leads to mass confusion
which leads to burnout on information overload
which leads to just shut up and do what you're told so you can stop thinking about it and move on with your life
which leads to the next big issue, whatever they create it to be, and everyone will be more than likely to just fall in-line and do whatever the govt tells them to do.

On a side note, I heard on the news last night that a security guard in chicago told a patron to put on a mask, the patron refused and the guard shot him to death claiming he was putting everyone in the story at risk

Another story is about a couple that is going through divorce. The child is to have 50/50 time with each parent and that has been agreed to and no issues. They go back to court for other divorce related issues when the judge ask the mother if she's had the jab, she replies "no because she has always has negative reaction to every vax she's ever received." the judge said she will no longer be able to see her child until she gets the jab.

I'm I the only one who sees a terrible pattern here???
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2021, 01:30:31 PM »
Everyday I hear more and more stories about people giving in to the "Vaccine Bullies". It really pisses me off. If you don't remember anything else from all this BS, just remember this. Your Medical Records are as private as your Attorney/Client relationship. NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY can force you to tell them If you have been Jabbed. :pissed: