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Offline JoJo

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If you think it can't happen here
« on: September 22, 2017, 06:26:04 PM »
 If NKorea hits us with an EMP it will only be days before the real trouble starts. On Fox Business Channel Curt Shilling said people were shooting one another for a bottle of water. When it gets worse it will get worse. Starving people will do anything. :(
 
 

Brilliant Explanation of How Socialism Works; So Simple a Child Can Understand

September 22, 2017 By TFPP Writer

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From Robert Gehl: In 1932 and 1933, while the world’s eyes were on the burgeoning power of the German state, Joseph Stalin was trying to contain a small republic they invaded called Ukraine.

In his socialist vision, these peasants, these independent, self-supporting peasants were enemies of Marxism – of Socialism. The ones who made profits off of selling their grain must be destroyed. They were executed, purged, imprisoned or exiled and the rest of Ukrainian society, an independent culture with their own language and economy, were forced onto collectivist farms to work for the Soviet state – for the people.

It was the culmination of a grand Socialist experiment, and resulted in the deaths of 4-12 million people.
Called the Holdomor (Ukranian for “murdered by starvation”) the official Soviet policy was a genocide with few parallels in modern history.

The storyline goes one of two ways: Either the genocide was planned by Stalin as a way of eradicating the Ukranian independence movement, or a ruthless social experiment, trying to transform a relatively prosperous peasant society into a socialist utopia.

The West isn’t told enough about this horror, and it’s denied or diminished in Russia. Stalin is revered as the greatest leader in Soviet History by the Russian people, but the Ukranians remember. So does Pulitzer-Prize-winning author Anne Applebaum, whose new book “Red Famine: Stalin’s War on Ukraine.” Her book calls the Holdomor what it is: Genocide. State-orchestrated genocide to further the failed socialist ideal.

When word got up to Moscow that the experiment was failing, that Stalin’s great plan was a disaster and that people were starving, the brutal dictator doubled down: Sending his secret police to patrol the streets for looters and anybody hoarding any food at all. Children and adults laid dead in the streets.

Starvation makes a person crazy. There are accounts of people callously beating others to death for begging for food. In reviewing the genocide, The Daily Mail reports:

    As millions began to die, human feeling perished with them. In one of countless dreadful anecdotes, Applebaum describes how a 15-year-old farm girl was begging beside the queue outside a Communist-run bread shop. As each person passed, the girl asked for crumbs. Finally, she asked the shopkeeper, who shouted at her and hit her so she fell to the ground. “Get up!” the shopkeeper said, kicking her. “Go home and get to work!” But she did not move; she was dead.

A few people in the queue started crying. “Some are getting too sentimental around here,” the shopkeeper said threateningly. “It is easy to spot enemies of the people.”

Parents murdered their children rather than have them die the slow horrible death of starvation.

    There were even tales of people reduced to cannibalism. In one village, the police arrested a man who had gone mad after his wife died. A neighbour asked him why he seemed better fed than everyone else. “I have eaten my children,” the man said, “and if you talk too much, I will eat you.”

    Later, in the camps of Stalin’s gulag, a Polish woman met hundreds of “unhappy, barefoot, half-naked Ukrainians” who had been sentenced for cannibalism.

    Their children, they told her, had died of hunger; then, driven mad by grief and starvation, the parents had cooked and eaten them. But afterwards, “when they came to understand what had happened, they lost their minds.”

This is the legacy of socialism, the legacy of Marxism. It is a legacy to be remembered and never to be repeated.

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In principle, no less than in practice, socialism is the ideology of thieves and tyrants.

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Re: If you think it can't happen here
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2017, 07:56:52 PM »
What also needs to be said it while all this was happening the New York Times was writing how wonderful life in the Soviet Union was and that luckily that had a leader who knew how to take care of the "few malcontents"

The New York Times was then as now an enemy of We the People everywhere.
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Re: If you think it can't happen here
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2017, 08:05:55 PM »
The Kulaks were the farmers.  Stalin starved them out to feed the cities.

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Re: If you think it can't happen here
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2017, 05:56:06 AM »
We are seeing similar in the streets of Venezuela today.
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Re: If you think it can't happen here
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2017, 01:32:19 PM »
That is part of world history I did not know, thanks for sharing.

To a certain degree you can see it in the US today. Its not as blatant as starvation, but it is dependency on the govt. to provide food, shelter, free iphones, etc...

Close to half the Country are "takers" while a little over half are "providers". The majority of the takers are fully capable of becoming providers (getting s job) but refuse to because its just too easy to be a taker. The providers are getting sick and tired of having their hard earned money given to the takers (the lazy ones) and that is one of the reasons Trump was elected.

During the great depression people hid their faces when standing in the soup lines and in general, pretty much everyone helped their neighbors if possible. \

Today having a EBT card (or whatever they are called) seems to be a badge of honor. Sitting on a corner begging for money is no longer a thing because its so darn easy to get govt handouts.

I'm willing to bet the majority of ANTIFA, BLM and the other groups are dependent on govt handouts, how will they react when they are asked to perform some sort of community service or drug testing in order to get their handouts???

I have no problem helping those who genuinely NEED help or those who need TEMPORARY financial help to get thought tough times but it was never intended to become a way of life for generation after generation...
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Re: If you think it can't happen here
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2017, 08:44:44 AM »
I give out charity almost daily. It can be as simple as listen to a person who is troubled to someone needing financial help.

Today, start with holding a door open when a person approaches. I get such a feeling of giving by just doing that one simple gesture. No government charity can do that.
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