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Title: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 13, 2013, 10:47:03 AM
Here are the candidates.

DPMS LR-308 (24" stainless bull barrell)
VEPR 7.62x54r (20" or 23")

however im also tossing around the idea of getting an AR-15.
Thinking about either a Colt 6920, Sig M400, or Ruger SR556.

what do you guys think?
Any advice?

Budget is $1,200 btw
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: WhiteWolfReloaded on May 13, 2013, 11:18:19 AM
Between the DPMS and the VEPR I'd go with the DPMS personally. Ammo availability, twist ratio, ability to customize all come to mind. As far as the AR's  :-\ There's nothing really great other than appearance that stands out on the rifles. I've heard good things about all of them even though my bias leans towards Sig. If I had the money personally I'd swing for the DPMS. I think Nutnfancy  ::) has a few videos specifically about this gun and variants on his channel. For the price I doubt you'll beat it.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: crudos on May 13, 2013, 11:57:31 AM
What role is future rifle to be used in? Or just a fun gun? 54r is still cheapest rifle round to shoot.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 13, 2013, 12:00:13 PM
I also found a rock river LAR-8 for the same price as the DPMS, uses FAL mags too.
20" barrel flat top. w/forward assist and dust cover


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What role is future rifle to be used in? Or just a fun gun? 54r is still cheapest rifle round to shoot.

DM-ish gun.
Would like something that can reach out with some authority but could be utilized as a rifleman's weapon if need be.

although TG almost has me convinced i need an AR.... again.  :))
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Kentactic on May 13, 2013, 12:28:24 PM
What optic will you put on the rifle? No point in a longer range caliber if you dont have the quality glass to utilize it. Factorin some bucks for that.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 13, 2013, 02:49:03 PM
i'll be doing a vortex viper 4-16x50 FFP w/MRAD reticle.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Kentactic on May 13, 2013, 03:19:16 PM
i'll be doing a vortex viper 4-16x50 FFP w/MRAD reticle.

 [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Xydaco on May 13, 2013, 04:55:29 PM
I have an AK that is shooting 200 yards with irons. Will go through conder block as well.
Get it dirty still shoots, get her wet (she like that) still shoots, no oil still shoots.
Run over by a truck.........still shoots.
AR. thats a high dollar stripper ......... [url=http://yoursmiles.org/p-m
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Kentactic on May 13, 2013, 05:30:29 PM
I have an AK that is shooting 200 yards with irons. Will go through conder block as well.
Get it dirty still shoots, get her wet (she like that) still shoots, no oil still shoots.
Run over by a truck.........still shoots.
AR. thats a high dollar stripper .........

yeah but what about at long range? I think the points the 300+ potential. Any hunkajunk shoots 200 yards. My 10-22 is probably comparable in accuracy to an AK at 200 yards.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Currahee on May 14, 2013, 02:13:09 PM
What role is future rifle to be used in? Or just a fun gun? 54r is still cheapest rifle round to shoot.

This, before I would consider either of these do you have a rifle that can be used in the CQB-mid range roles? Do you have a good defensive pistol and do you have spares of those?

I am very practical in my gun choices
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 14, 2013, 02:17:12 PM
went with "none of the above" option lol
locally i found a Norinco NHM-91 w/integral bipod for a reasonable price.
Im meeting the guy to pick it up tomorrow.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Kentactic on May 14, 2013, 04:50:03 PM
What role is future rifle to be used in? Or just a fun gun? 54r is still cheapest rifle round to shoot.

This, before I would consider either of these do you have a rifle that can be used in the CQB-mid range roles? Do you have a good defensive pistol and do you have spares of those?

I am very practical in my gun choices

I think he made the decision that he needed a longer range weapon. We really need not micro manage that choice. Not trying to be confrontational. Just saying we dont need to audit every guys inventory when they are set on a certain whatever.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 14, 2013, 05:32:42 PM
Currahee my primary is a Norinco MAK-90 922(r) compliant, with peep sights.
My secondary is an M&P shield .40

I decided on the RPK as a *slightly* longer range/support option. The compatibility with my primary's mags and ammo helped the decision along.

Plus RPK's are boss.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: crudos on May 14, 2013, 09:25:49 PM
Hey RS, does the Norinco have that funky thumbhole stock? Can it take standard AK mags, thought they did, but don't remember the details on these anymore. Very underrated AK variant. Of course, they are not that widely available either. Good choice in the end, pictures a must please!
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 14, 2013, 11:55:38 PM
will post pics as soon as i pick her up tomorrow night.
It has the uber gay thumbhole stock but uses regular stamped AK furniture and magazines.

Will be doing a black synthetic club-foot RPK stock, arsenal black lower handguards, Mako pistol grip, ultimak rail and Vortex SPARC co-witnessed with irons. Thats the plan anyway.

40rd mags. NO DRUMS. lol
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: thatGuy on May 15, 2013, 01:03:00 AM
Good to see this story has a happy ending!

BTW Currahee is right on the money, if we are to shepherd our brothers into making good choices then we must be willing to ask them the hard questions like, "hey dude, are you fucking up?"

Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on May 15, 2013, 01:15:03 AM
two things

1. you aint gonna chew up a cinderblock wall in a gunfight unless you got a m2 or a m240b

2. pretty much any gun can be turned into a damn fine precision weapon but without proper glass your wasting your time
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Deathstyle on May 15, 2013, 03:20:32 AM
will post pics as soon as i pick her up tomorrow night.
It has the uber gay thumbhole stock but uses regular stamped AK furniture and magazines.

Will be doing a black synthetic club-foot RPK stock, arsenal black lower handguards, Mako pistol grip, ultimak rail and Vortex SPARC co-witnessed with irons. Thats the plan anyway.

40rd mags. NO DRUMS. lol


40 round mags you say huh?


http://www.strikehardgear.com/ak-47-magazine-shoulder-bag/ (http://www.strikehardgear.com/ak-47-magazine-shoulder-bag/)

http://www.strikehardgear.com/ak-47-molle-magazine-pouch-double-40-round/ (http://www.strikehardgear.com/ak-47-molle-magazine-pouch-double-40-round/)
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Kentactic on May 15, 2013, 08:33:29 AM
Good to see this story has a happy ending!

BTW Currahee is right on the money, if we are to shepherd our brothers into making good choices then we must be willing to ask them the hard questions like, "hey dude, are you fucking up?"

New guys yeah. RS has been around the block.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 15, 2013, 09:20:46 AM
Thanks deathstyle ive never seen 40rd pouches before! [URL=http://www.smileyvault.co
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Currahee on May 15, 2013, 12:28:20 PM
Good to see this story has a happy ending!

BTW Currahee is right on the money, if we are to shepherd our brothers into making good choices then we must be willing to ask them the hard questions like, "hey dude, are you fucking up?"

New guys yeah. RS has been around the block.

I've been around the block myself and would still prefer to have others ask me the "hard questions." There is no one I would not try to give my best advice to, especially when they asked for it.

Anyway I'm glad to see the OP made a sound logistical and tactical choice.
We need pics... and I would also like to see the differenice in accuracy between a well shot AK and bipoded AK.  I'm curious.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Kentactic on May 15, 2013, 12:36:31 PM
Yeah i know your not a newbie currahee. I just put myself in RS' shoes and it gets old repeating the same old answers everytime you need advice on a specific item. Yes i wiped my ass today. Yes i brushed my teeth. Now about this gun... Another exampke. If TG said his truck wont start. I wouldnt start by asking if theres gas in it. I see both sides though.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 15, 2013, 08:40:10 PM
Well friends i may have gone full retard.
Didnt get the RPK.

This morning a friend posted his 6.8SPC AR for $900 couldn't pass her up.

-RedX upper with 20" stainless fluted barrel
-BEAR lower with magpul ACS
-Bushnell trophy 4-12x40 illuminated w/BDC

Although when he duracoated it he painted the barrel under the handguards so i'll have to strip that off.
I will probably duracoat the lower to match soon, i do like FDE.

Now i just gotta start stocking up ammo for it.
Also i get 50% off trijicon stuff so i might put my first ACOG on her, definitely replacing the bushnell.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 15, 2013, 08:44:26 PM
heres one pic
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 15, 2013, 09:03:08 PM
and another
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on May 15, 2013, 11:51:36 PM
6.8spc?
 [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at

don't post anymore till you repent  [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 15, 2013, 11:58:24 PM
hey now, we have more 6.8 on the shelf than 5.56, it's no slouch ballistically either.
plus now i have an AR and can use multiple uppers, i want a 556 upper too.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Reaver on May 16, 2013, 09:44:54 AM
Why not get a Vepr in 308 or 30-06?
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 16, 2013, 12:05:33 PM
Why not get a Vepr in 308 or 30-06?

308's are out of stock except for the 16" barrel.
VEPR's dont dont come in .30-06

I hate the mags for the VEPR x54r
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: thatGuy on May 16, 2013, 12:30:42 PM
That is one pig ugly rifle dude :P

You need to get that paint taken care of, post haste..
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 16, 2013, 12:41:08 PM
That is one pig ugly rifle dude :P

You need to get that paint taken care of, post haste..

trust me, first priority.
Next day off im going to take her apart and start on getting that duracoat off the barrel.
I think im going to duracoat the lower to match the rest.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: Reaver on May 16, 2013, 02:19:31 PM
It's the saiga I was thinking of.

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/14684-pictorial-writeup-saiga-100-in-30-06/ (http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/14684-pictorial-writeup-saiga-100-in-30-06/)
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: RS762 on May 16, 2013, 03:03:19 PM
It's the saiga I was thinking of.

[url]http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/14684-pictorial-writeup-saiga-100-in-30-06/[/url] ([url]http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/14684-pictorial-writeup-saiga-100-in-30-06/[/url])


odd looking gun, ive never seen one before.
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: mountainredneck2051 on May 16, 2013, 05:51:02 PM
honestly dude i'd save the money your gonna spend on duracoat and just krylon spray paint that bitch

duracoat is nice but it doesn't really do much better than fricken spray paint does
Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: CJS06 on June 01, 2013, 10:00:53 AM
Nice Rifle.

Dont bother stripping the barrel and get yourself some Aerovoe spray paint.   Here is a link to a "paint it" post on another forum that is pretty good.
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=380963 (http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=380963)

I am not a fan of the 6.8SPC  after owning a couple.  In an AR patterned rifle I prefer the 300BLK as an alternative caliber.  With Either 5.56 or 300 I am effective to 300 with just a red dot.  That 6.8 will be as well.  Think about ditching the 4-12x as it will be much slower inside of 200. 

Title: Re: Getting a new gun. need advice.
Post by: JohnyMac on June 01, 2013, 12:00:48 PM
Hey CJS06, welcome to the forum.

For you folks who do not know CJS he is a well known "black rifle" builder in New England.

Glad you could make it!!! :bravo: