Author Topic: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R  (Read 29727 times)

Offline APX808

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • APX R4nt5
Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« on: August 22, 2013, 08:43:02 PM »


Hey guys, I'll repost this article from my blog here.

Probably you already found a ton of articles telling you how awesome the Baofeng UV5R is, today
I'm going to do something different, I'll tell you all the defects I found in it.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's an awesome radio, specially considering the bang for the buck factor,
and I would buy another one without doubt, but I didn't wanted to write just another UV5R article...

So, lets get down to business.

- The manual sucks. The manual is just a few pages long, doesn't give you much details about the unit
and doesn't explain clearly how to program it. Lucky for us there is a great website with a ton of
information about the UV5R, check it here: http://www.miklor.com/uv5r/

- There is no reception power indicator, the indicator is binary, you are receiving something or you
don't.

- You can't update the firmware. The microcontroller is an OTP (One Time Programmable). Once
'flash' programmed at the factory, it cannot be changed.

- There is a known 'quirk' with the UV5R receiver. If a scanned channel has an R-CTCSS (PL) tone
of 136.5 Hz or lower, the receiver will not stop on that channel. R-CTCSS (PL) tones of 146.2 and
higher work fine.

- Scanning speed is really low, to scan 1 MHz at 5KHz steps it takes 59.65 seconds, while my Yaesu
FT270 only takes 7.45 seconds. Test was performed scanning from 147 to 148 Mhz without finding
any station during the scan.

- The charger input voltage is 10v, so you wouldn't be able to plug it directly to your car battery.

- Some people report a low mic volume, didn't happen to me, the solution is to carefully enlarge the
mic hole.

- The Alarm function. Man, WTF is that crap? When you push a button named "Call" to the side of
the unit, it will start emitting an alarm sound and turning on and off all the lights, and depending on
the mode it is configured it will also start transmitting the alarm! You gotta see that for yourself,
check it in the embedded video. Biggest problem with that is that the button is in a position that is very easy to push
by accident, in a tactical situation you are dead meat if that turns on. Also, there is no way to
deactivate the function programmatically, so I think the solution is to open the unit and break that
button, the problem is that you'll lose the FM radio if you do that.

Baofeng UV5r - The 3 Alarm modes


- The flashlight, its very useful with the exception of the strobe mode that is totally useless, but the
problem is that is turned on by pushing the MONI button, so the chances of turning it on by accident
are really big, and in some situations that can ruin your day. Best solution, put some tape over the
LED or when you open the radio to break the CALL button, also disconnect the LED.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2013, 08:48:27 PM by APX808 »

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15169
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 08:59:06 PM »
Great report APX! Thanks
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline thatGuy

  • Kind Lover
  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3454
  • Karma: +12/-0
    • thatGuy's youtube
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 10:33:57 PM »
I thought I had read somewhere that someone had cracked the program and re-wrote it to expand the range you could receive..

Great over view, nothing is without it's faults and you were more than fair what addressing this humble little radio.

I agree with you on all accounts. 

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15169
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2013, 10:16:31 AM »
whom did you buy yours through APX?
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline APX808

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • APX R4nt5
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2013, 10:19:06 AM »
I bought it from dx.com HERE is a link to it.

$40.8 with free shipping and an international tracking number.

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15169
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2013, 10:23:40 AM »
Thx APX.

I found a site that sells the Yaesu FT270 for $115-. Should I buy the Yaesu or the Baofeng?

$40-50- bucks is great however would I be able to eliminate the "bad" from the Baofeng if I bought the Yaesu?
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline APX808

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • APX R4nt5
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2013, 10:35:40 AM »
The Yaesu FT270 is way heavier, bigger and harder to use, also only works on VHF, so you won't be able to communicate with FRMS radios.

I say is harder to use because isn't voice assisted and the display doesn't show much information, so all the options names are 5 letters maximum.
Baofeng is english voice assisted and the display shows a lot more of information, so its easier to remember what is for each option.

Good thing of the Yaesu is that it will survive harder use conditions.

I think you'll need at least 2 radios, one for you and one for your wife, so I would go for the Baofeng, you can get the Yaesu later.

As you can see you eliminate the bad things of the Baofeng, but get other bad things.

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15169
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2013, 10:40:32 AM »
 :thumbsUp:APX
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline thatGuy

  • Kind Lover
  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3454
  • Karma: +12/-0
    • thatGuy's youtube
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2013, 10:45:11 AM »
Believe that I am no expert on the topic but my own research lead me to the BaoFeng because of it's reach across the freq range. You could easily get less for more but the search continues for a handheld that gets all the freqs and if only it would cost less than $200....

Offline crudos

  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2565
  • Karma: +7/-2
  • Expect Resistance
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2013, 11:48:02 AM »
Good stuff APX, it's a far from perfect little radio, but the good outweighs the bad from my perspective. I love the fact that the radio receives and TRANSMITS through its full frequency range, and that sold it for me, in addition to the bargain factor.

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15169
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2013, 09:28:52 AM »
Last stupid question:

Is there a difference between the Baofeng UV5R and the UV5RPlus? Or are they one i the same?

I see people talking about both.
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline APX808

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • APX R4nt5
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2013, 09:39:36 AM »
You can take a look at this thread John

http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?374064-Baofeng-UV-5R-models

qrz.com is a really specialized board, those guys for sure know what they are talking about.

Basically it says there are many different versions of the model, but all are the same.
Probably new models have newer soft, so that would be a pro.

The plus version has like a chromed front that I don't like.

 

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15169
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2013, 09:42:43 AM »
 :thumbsUp:APX
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline thatGuy

  • Kind Lover
  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3454
  • Karma: +12/-0
    • thatGuy's youtube
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2013, 06:18:55 PM »
If you're not rocking the 'plus' you might as well be using just your regular ears.

Someone please delete that after laughing about it.

Offline special-k

  • Peasant Extraordinaire
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2074
  • Karma: +9/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2013, 07:13:32 PM »
@tG
Smart-ass much?   :lmfao:
"It wouldn't do any good.  I've had the shit beat out of me a lot of times.  I just replenish with more shit."  - Billy McBride

Offline thatGuy

  • Kind Lover
  • Community Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3454
  • Karma: +12/-0
    • thatGuy's youtube
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2013, 11:26:24 AM »
@ SK,

What do you know?


*yeah, I was telling a joke and am doing it again, I'm all keyed up!*

Offline special-k

  • Peasant Extraordinaire
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 2074
  • Karma: +9/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2013, 11:38:26 AM »
Sorry, I don't know anything more about the Baofengs than I read here or find on YT.
"It wouldn't do any good.  I've had the shit beat out of me a lot of times.  I just replenish with more shit."  - Billy McBride

Offline APX808

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • APX R4nt5
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2013, 09:17:30 AM »
John, James Yeager just did a video comparing the Baofeng UV5R with the plus and a Yaesu unit. As he mentions he has no clue about radios, but you can see that the extended battery isn't compatible between the UV5R and the plus.

Ham Radios - Part 1

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15169
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2013, 12:48:51 PM »
Thx APX, I just ordered three.
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15169
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2013, 12:04:16 AM »
Well my Baofeng UV B5 just came in and I don't have a clue what I am doing with it. The info that comes with it is marginal at best. I did buy the data cable and it came with a driver. I have down loaded some software that looks like an excel spreadsheet.

Any suggestions on some info I can read?

Confused at the cabin :o
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline APX808

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1815
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • APX R4nt5
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2013, 04:49:41 AM »
This has a nice manual http://www.miklor.com/uv5r/

just punch the same frequency in two of them and you should be  hearing your self LOL
The data cable is just helpful to avoid entering the options manually and assigning names to memories, I rather not use one, because I dunno if I'm going to have a computer when I need to program it.

Take a look at the manual, play with the radio, and look for stations or repeaters in your zone.
If you have an specific question ask me maybe I can help you.

Offline Outonowhere

  • Hardcore Prepper
  • ******
  • Posts: 1353
  • Karma: +1/-0
  • Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2013, 06:05:10 AM »
Got the programming cable with mine but have not really played with it as far as programming.  I am still just a knuckle dragger when it comes to advanced comes so I have no clue what I am doing with this thing lol.  Also, when I tried to plug in the cable it would not be detected by the computer.  I read online that a lot of people had issue with the cable not seating all the way.  This would be rectified by removing a little of the rubber from the plug side of the cable.

So yea, I have no idea how to program specific channels into this thing.  I just push the button... or the alarm if Im in a bad mood lol
"A GREAT CONTRADICTION IS THE BELIEF IN STATES RIGHTS WHILE NOT SUPPORTING THE RIGHTS OF THE INDIVIDUAL."  - Me
Han shot first!

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15169
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2013, 09:08:40 AM »
OONW, it's probably the com port. I think you have to be com3. Did your data cable come with a driver?
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.

Offline mariecurtishomes

  • Prepper Apprentice
  • *
  • Posts: 10
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2013, 02:20:22 PM »
John...We need each other more than you can imagine!!...my cable isn't working either.  But my apple peeler/corer is working fine!!

Offline JohnyMac

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 15169
  • Karma: +23/-0
Re: Bad things about the Baofeng UV5R
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2013, 07:58:23 PM »
 :lmfao: Marie!!!

My Baofeng is working GREAT! I will "tuck you in" on the channels for the mntn when I see ya'.

I received a email from Baofeng today letting me know that their software no "workie" with Windows 8.  :facepalm: I will try my XP system tomorrow to see if that works. Lets chat via PM if you want me to program your radio.  :)
Keep abreast of J6 arrestees at https://americangulag.org/ Donate if you can for their defense.