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Armasight Sparc Core - The poor Mans PV14?
« on: April 25, 2017, 06:45:20 PM »
Armasight Spark Core, the poor man's PVS14?

Over the last couple years I had countless conversations with people who had an interest in something that can allow them to engage targets at night but without the high pricetag of a Milspec unit such as a PVS-14.
Generally the answer invariably was "You gotta pay to play" or "Such a thing does not exist"
Recently I had an opportunity to experiment with just such a unit and compare it to my existing milspec PVS-14
The goal was to assemble and test a complete configuration with tube, laser IR light, helmet etc for 1300 dollars or less.

This is what I got (all prices approx. retail. If I secured a sale price for any item I will list a good retail price instead so as to not skew the numbers):

-Armasight Spark Core $485
- OTAL (milspec IR laser) $340-390. So less than half the price of a DBAL or PEC2 type unit that features IR laser AND visible Laser. This features ONLY IR laser. But that is our high pay off feature so I judged the OTAL sufficient for an economy set-up.
- Armasight mount #170: $185. I also purchased from my vendor on Armasights recommendation their #70 mount . But ithis seems designed as an adapter for a regular PVS14 mount w/ JArm. This may give me better fit according to Customer Service.

- Inforce Weapons Mounted Light, w/ IR option, usually priced between $140-160 dollars. I found it on sale for 100 bucks but I believe this low price cannot be relied on for cost planning and "count" it as $150 cost.
- Lancer FAST (Bump) Helmet for $85 shipped.
Total system cost approx. $1250

In order to test I exercised this unit by duplicating to the best of my ability the environment encountered in light patrolling and also night time live-fire.

First the Bad:
- No gain control, Brightness comparable to lowest third gain setting on a PVS14, so is not terribly bright
- A little bulkier and heavier than a PVS14 tube
- The Armasight Mount #170, is clearly intended to mount this unit on a shroud equipped helmet... it works but just barely. While the mounting seemed reasonably secure. The adjustments in general were a bit iffy. I was able to make it work but in the end even with the adjustments maxed out for distance (mostly by where you screw the "arm" onto the Spark Core) the unit was still too close to my  eyes. I had to take off the eyecup). The "Steps" of flipping down the unit cannot be changed via the screw that backs up that bearing.  As a a result the tube was perfectly level in front of my eye. Adjustments to the helmet padding were able to overcome this.
Mount is serviceable but needs improvement. Customer service says they have an adaptor which can make a regular PVS14 mount work. I have this adapter and may try it in the future for better fit.

The good:
-Picture surprisingly clear and free of distortions.
-Has both diopter (-5 to +5) and distance focus adjustments. (So for most folks who wear glasses they could use the monocular w/o wearing them).
-Used it in a moderate rain with no ill effect on the unit afterwards (though raindrops on the lens interfered with vision at some point...but this would be same for any other unit regardless of price so it doesn't count as a negative)
-Was able to engage targets with IR laser without resorting to IR Light illumination from my weapons mounted light. IMHO this is a KPP (Key Performance Parameter) for nearly everyone.
-Responds real well to an IR WML and this extends engagement distance to maybe 90m..   Without Active IR WML I observed being able to see (and engage via IR laser) a man sized target at 30-40m.
- Price! Priced in the high 400s this is an incredible Value. Also now one doesnt have to stress so much about the units well being anymore.. If its gets stolen/lost.. sure thats bad... But its not 3k+ bad!   

In summary I can give it a qualified recomendation.

Just understand that it is not a PVS14 and do not except Milspec performance out of it.
What you can expect though is to have a moderate but practical and useful Nighttime engagement capability with this unit and this arrangement is dramatically superior over mounting a sight on your weapon direct ( as most other affordable units are used)

JRH Enterprises helped me put this kit together.
They usually focus on milspec stuff and this unit is not on his site.. but Robert said he would do special order as long as the buyer is educated to not expect a PVS14.
Robert also has good deals on OTALS:
http://www.jrhenterprises.com/OTAL-C-Infrared-only-laser-OTAL-CIR9056.htm?categoryId=-1

Can't say enough good things about Robert from JRH. He comes out to train and is simply one of us.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2017, 07:55:22 PM by Erick »
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Re: Armasight Sparc Core - The poor Mans PV14?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 02:47:27 PM »
Erick

Great review, Thanks.  Will this unit work with a Milspec J Arm and a Wilcox mount?

Chris

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Re: Armasight Sparc Core - The poor Mans PV14?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2017, 06:33:18 PM »
Erick

Great review, Thanks.  Will this unit work with a Milspec J Arm and a Wilcox mount?

Chris

Chris,

I am not familiar with the Wilcox mount (can u show a pic of yours?).
But Customer support at Armasight told me the optional  adaptor I got with the kit, is to mount the Spark Core to PVS14 milspec JArms.

My vendor Robert from JRH Enterprises is sending me a Rhino mount for free to try to mount this unit via a milspec JArm and the adaptor.
He just started carrying Armasight (since he is  FLIR vendor and they merged with FLIR) and is himself curious to improve adjustability with this unit.

I want to try it out and Armasight thinks this will give me better adjustments especially in the Z axis where I feel the adjustment is lacking with their own #170 mount.

To answer your question more specifically if the adapter is designed to mate up w/ a  milspec J Arm, I would speculate it to make no difference what kind of mount the J Arm is mated to.
That is my expectation but I have not tried it yet ...


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Re: Armasight Sparc Core - The poor Mans PV14?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 08:29:42 PM »
WOW! Great review Erick.  :cheers:

Been away for a couple of days and hadn't seen till now.

I will have some follow-up questions.
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Re: Armasight Sparc Core - The poor Mans PV14?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 08:42:47 PM »
I will have some follow-up questions.

Ask away :)
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Re: Armasight Sparc Core - The poor Mans PV14?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2017, 07:43:24 PM »
Erick

If it works with a Rhino Mount it will work with the Wilcox G24.  That would be a great way to have a backup set of NODS or even a set to leave in the vehicle.  Cant afford multiple sets of Mil spec units.

Thanks again!
Chris

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Re: Armasight Sparc Core - The poor Mans PV14?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2017, 10:31:03 PM »
Chris,

glad you enjoyed.
Remember though it is not as good as aPVS14..
It's not particularly close either in light amplification.

It does however allow nighttime engagement via IR laser ....and you may need to use IR illum with much greater frequency than w/ PVS14..
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Re: Armasight Sparc Core - The poor Mans PV14?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2017, 06:00:18 PM »
Update:
Used it again.

This time unlike last time there was plenty of moonlight.
(last time was overcast and raining)
No Active IR illumination needed at all to make it work under these circumstances.

Of course those are ideal conditions..

Still it was too dark to shoot w/o NVG and the combination Armasight Spark Core and my OTAL IR laser worked w/o any IR light illum needed under these condtions.

I did notice a lot more distortion though under this less dark night than the previous test.
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