Unchained Preppers

General Category => D.I.Y. => Topic started by: Gunner on February 05, 2014, 02:43:35 AM

Title: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Gunner on February 05, 2014, 02:43:35 AM: I'm not sure you guys are like all the other hip people with instagrams and what not but there are a lot of gun lovers on there posting pictures of their work and one thing I have came across and really intrigued me was this new thing called stippling. You take a soldering iron and literally just poke the thing you are working on over and over. You can control the roughness by how deep you go. Its quite time consuming, makes your eyes go cross eyed and if you have shaky hands like me its kinda aggravating but the extra grip you obtain is insane. I hope there's not a thread on this already, if there is I'm sorry haha.

This is the iron I bought for like $20 at radio shack(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/05/emy9ehyp.jpg)

I started on my 870 and loved the way it felt so I have my work cut out for me (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/05/paqy3u7u.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/05/ujyba3an.jpg)
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: special-k on February 05, 2014, 03:40:21 AM: Yeah, I've never had the nerve to take a soldering iron to my Glock. Maybe one of theses days...
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: crudos on February 05, 2014, 08:16:27 AM: If the gods wanted stippling on a Glock, then Gaston would've done so. ;)

I can see doing it on easily replaceable parts, but no way I would start poking holes in a polymer-frame handgun with a soldering iron. But that's just me. Have seen some pictures of handgun stippling in Recoil magazine, that looked horrible.
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: JohnyMac on February 05, 2014, 08:19:13 AM: This reminds me of the wood working kit I got when I was 10 for Christmas. The difference seems to be the medium - Wood vs. polymer.

Like you wrote, I bet the grip is awesome!

Thanks for posting Gunner! :thumbsUp:
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Outonowhere on February 05, 2014, 10:09:29 AM: Not sure if the photos are still available on another thread here or not but I did have the balls to stipple mine and hells yes! I started out stippling a couple of similarly polymer knives to get the technique down and walla! Trick is to only go so far, just lightly indent, the "gripping" power comes not from the "holes" put in it but from the tiny ridges created when you make the indent. And if your ridges turn out to be a lil more sharp than you like, hit it with super fine sandpaper. So far I have stippled 1 Glock (my own), and about 5 edged weapons (not all mine). Also I use a $10-20 wood burning kit from Lowe's lol
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Well-Prepared Witch on February 05, 2014, 10:10:39 AM: lol! When I saw the word stippling I flashed back to my high school drama classes and the stage make-up technique. :D

I thought you could buy different grips for guns. Wouldn't be easier and safer to just get a textured grip?
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Gunner on February 05, 2014, 12:07:57 PM: Quote from: Outonowhere on February 05, 2014, 10:09:29 AM
Not sure if the photos are still available on another thread here or not but I did have the balls to stipple mine and hells yes! I started out stippling a couple of similarly polymer knives to get the technique down and walla! Trick is to only go so far, just lightly indent, the "gripping" power comes not from the "holes" put in it but from the tiny ridges created when you make the indent. And if your ridges turn out to be a lil more sharp than you like, hit it with super fine sandpaper. So far I have stippled 1 Glock (my own), and about 5 edged weapons (not all mine). Also I use a $10-20 wood burning kit from Lowe's lol
I want to buy a glock for this exact reason haha. Some people have their own designs that look amazing but unfortunately I don't have the hands for that. I want to do my Sig grips but that means I have to drag out my duracoat again.

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Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Outonowhere on February 07, 2014, 01:06:27 AM: Quote from: Well-Prepared Witch on February 05, 2014, 10:10:39 AM
lol! When I saw the word stippling I flashed back to my high school drama classes and the stage make-up technique. :D

I thought you could buy different grips for guns. Wouldn't be easier and safer to just get a textured grip?

They have "rough" texture grip take for pistols but it is nothing more than tacticool skateboard grip tape. By using these and things like the Hogue grips you are adding more to the grip as well, making it bigger and possibly more uncomfortable.

I have used this guys work as an inspiration to also mod the grip for better (more comfortable) finger rests and easier mag release manipulation. www.weaponworx.com (http://www.weaponworx.com)

http://www.weaponworx.com/# (http://www.weaponworx.com/#)!untitled/zoom/c1v0g/image11ew
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Kentactic on February 07, 2014, 11:19:58 AM: It has been a bit tempting to stipple a glock but I know ill hate it after a while, wish I just listened to james yeager and had left it stock.... lol

Chris Costa says to soak your hands in dish soap with a bit of water and then try to shoot your gun. That's what it would be like to have your hands covered in blood.

Maybe the next time someone puts a deer down they can pop off some rounds to try it out...
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Gunner on February 07, 2014, 02:31:06 PM: Quote from: Kentactic on February 07, 2014, 11:19:58 AM
It has been a bit tempting to stipple a glock but I know ill hate it after a while, wish I just listened to james yeager and had left it stock.... lol

Chris Costa says to soak your hands in dish soap with a bit of water and then try to shoot your gun. That's what it would be like to have your hands covered in blood.

Maybe the next time someone puts a deer down they can pop off some rounds to try it out...

Are you saying the stippling would help in a situation like that? I believe it would, I'm worried about a muddy terrain and the mud filling up the holes making it slick but then again a standard frame would do the same. I like the texture and I like new and it feels new to me so for now I am a fan. Down the road I might think I was stupid but by then I hope I will have new toys.

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Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Kentactic on February 07, 2014, 02:51:09 PM: Ya it would certainly help in a bloody hands situation.
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: thatGuy on February 07, 2014, 07:51:42 PM: You can always fill the holes with a poly resin and then sand it back down to a too smooth to grip.. er.. grip..
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Outonowhere on February 07, 2014, 10:52:52 PM: Quote from: thatGuy on February 07, 2014, 07:51:42 PM
You can always fill the holes with a poly resin and then sand it back down to a too smooth to grip.. er.. grip..
You mean like a stock 1911? Sorry had to go there! :trolling:
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Gunner on November 10, 2014, 02:57:21 AM: Well I haven't been on here for a while so here's a little addition of mine. Ground down the factory glock "grip", undercut the trigger guard, poked thousands of little holes then cerakoted the frame. I'm rather pleased on the turn out. (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/09/3bbf147c7447c5d127076efa517fd0d2.jpg)
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: JohnyMac on November 10, 2014, 07:57:11 AM: Gunner, are you rolling with Goodyear ATV tires on your "ride?"

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Seriously...Your job on that Glock looks GREAT! Congratulations on the job and thanks for sharing! :thumbsUp:
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Nemo on November 10, 2014, 12:05:26 PM: Quote from: crudos on February 05, 2014, 08:16:27 AM
If the gods wanted stippling on a Glock, then Gaston would've done so. ;)

Please note my relevant tagline below.

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Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Gunner on November 10, 2014, 01:55:18 PM: No I have bfg projects on my truck, my dad's friend has something like that on his though. I think they might be coopers but they have that distinct pattern.

I bought the Glock for this very reason. The next step is to fire up my mill and cut into my slide
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: JohnyMac on November 10, 2014, 07:49:41 PM: I just had in my hands this evening a perfectly Stippled handgun.

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Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Kentactic on November 11, 2014, 02:30:05 PM: Quote from: Gunner on November 10, 2014, 01:55:18 PM
No I have bfg projects on my truck, my dad's friend has something like that on his though. I think they might be coopers but they have that distinct pattern.

I bought the Glock for this very reason. The next step is to fire up my mill and cut into my slide
Not the slide.... please.... lol

Plus once you hack the slide you expose untreated metal to the environment, effect the weight of the slide which will contribute to reliability issues to some degree and... you become a guy with a hacked up glock.
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Gunner on November 11, 2014, 02:41:05 PM: Quote from: Kentactic on November 11, 2014, 02:30:05 PM
Not the slide.... please.... lol

Plus once you hack the slide you expose untreated metal to the environment, effect the weight of the slide which will contribute to reliability issues to some degree and... you become a guy with a hacked up glock.

Well I would cerakote the slide of course, I won't let it just rust away. I'm not sure on the reliability aspect. I have seen some slides that have been milled to nothing and they still function. I just want to mill some grooves in the front for extra gripping power since I can't just stipple the slide haha
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Kentactic on November 11, 2014, 02:43:58 PM: Quote from: Gunner on November 11, 2014, 02:41:05 PM

Quote from: Kentactic on November 11, 2014, 02:30:05 PM
Not the slide.... please.... lol

Plus once you hack the slide you expose untreated metal to the environment, effect the weight of the slide which will contribute to reliability issues to some degree and... you become a guy with a hacked up glock.

Well I would cerakote the slide of course, I won't let it just rust away. I'm not sure on the reliability aspect. I have seen some slides that have been milled to nothing and they still function. I just want to mill some grooves in the front for extra gripping power since I can't just stipple the slide haha
I hear you. To each there own. I've never had grip issues on a glock slide personally.
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Gunner on November 11, 2014, 02:45:57 PM: Quote from: Kentactic on November 11, 2014, 02:30:05 PM
I hear you. To each there own. I've never had grip issues on a glock slide personally.

Me either but I spent $400 on a mini mill and dammit I want to use it!
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Kentactic on November 11, 2014, 02:46:49 PM: Lol
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: CJS06 on November 13, 2014, 02:44:46 PM: Stippling definitely does help in muddy, wet, slippery conditions. You can make it as mild or rough as you want depending on how much pressure you apply. I like my stippling to be finer than some so I do not go very deep, but rely upon the pattern to give more grip. (http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i407/CSouza06/IMG_20140413_213817249.jpg) (http://s1092.photobucket.com/user/CSouza06/media/IMG_20140413_213817249.jpg.html)

I have a couple of friends that have had milling done to their slides. This ranges from RMR cuts, to grooving for grip, down to milling of ports into the slide for weight reduction (similar to ZEV or Salient). If it works for you do it...I have not seen it effect reliability of a Glock or M&P. That said I dont see how it added anything to the firearms in question either, other that aesthetics for the owner.
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: Gunner on November 13, 2014, 02:47:58 PM: Looks good man, I wish I had steady enough hands to be able to follow lines.
Title: Re: Stippling, heard of it? Now you have
Post by: JohnyMac on November 13, 2014, 07:48:45 PM: I stopped by CJS's house the other day to look at the new wood floors he put down at his house. Once I gave him and his son the JohnyMac "seal of approval" he showed me his most recent stippling project.

As you can see with the M&P pic - CJS does a GREAT job!

CJS also shared with me some of his other examples of stippling and gunsmithing in general. The man is a true artisan. We are lucky to have him part of this forum.

Don't be hesitant asking him any questions as he is a wealth of knowledge. Pretty good sailor too...Just a hair less as good as old JohnyMac. :cheers: